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IMR 8208 XBR results?
12 February 2010, 01:24
chuckslayerIMR 8208 XBR results?
Anyone here try this new powder yet?
Wondering how it would be for the 22-250.
Looks like a good replacement for N133 in the 6mm class of cartridges, for the likes of the BR guys.
Seafire, how about you?
12 February 2010, 01:30
vapodogquote:
IMR 8208 XBR
This is new to me....can you tell us where it stands in the burn rate charts?
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12 February 2010, 06:52
bartschequote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
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IMR 8208 XBR
This is new to me....can you tell us where it stands in the burn rate charts?
from what I gather from my testing it is between XMR2015 and IMR 3031.: closer to the 2015.Do not have adequate pressure test equipment but comparative case and primer appearance and load vs. velocity leads me to this conclusion.
roger
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12 February 2010, 07:03
vapodogquote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
quote:
IMR 8208 XBR
This is new to me....can you tell us where it stands in the burn rate charts?
from what I gather from my testing it is between XMR2015 and IMR 3031.: closer to the 2015.Do not have adequate pressure test equipment but comparative case and primer appearance and load vs. velocity leads me to this conclusion.
roger
I just visited Hodgdon's website and they have it listed near H-4895.....several places after IMR-3031
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12 February 2010, 08:30
armadilloI talked to a guy at the range last week who had a couple of pounds he got from a benchrest shooter. He had it loaded in .308 for his M1A and put 5 shots in one ragged hole while I watched.
I have no idea when us peo'ns will be able to get it.
12 February 2010, 09:13
pointblankquote:
Originally posted by armadillo:
I talked to a guy at the range last week who had a couple of pounds he got from a benchrest shooter. He had it loaded in .308 for his M1A and put 5 shots in one ragged hole while I watched.
I have no idea when us peo'ns will be able to get it.
It's widely available now.
12 February 2010, 23:07
butchlambertI have 48lbs coming next week. It is slightly slower than VV133. It is more dense allowing you to put a little more in the case. I'm hoping it will be less temp. sensitive than VV133.
Butch
13 February 2010, 06:53
bartsche
Back when I first started playing with 8208 I too ranked it like 3031.But using 3031 data started showing a little pressure.Using 2015 data seems a little more forgiving. Now that's just my take.
The newer stuff maybe a horse of a different color.
roger
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13 February 2010, 07:37
pointblankquote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Back when I first started playing with 8208 I too ranked it like 3031.But using 3031 data started showing a little pressure.Using 2015 data seems a little more forgiving. Now that's just my take.
The newer stuff maybe a horse of a different color.
roger
Yeah, there were quite a few different lots of the original 8208 that varied greatly in burn rate. Some was almost as fast as 4198, and other lots were closer to 4895. Thats a WIDE range. Anyhow, the new stuff is certainly a different horse in a number of ways...
14 February 2010, 05:40
Alberta CanuckMy memory is a bit vague today, so this is mainly a question, not a statement of presumed fact.
When I first started using ADI powders a couple or three decades ago, I believe 8208 was claimed to be the same exact same powder as Hodgdon 322, and 2208 was (maybe) Varget? In fact, I think it was Hodgdon that said they were both supplied by ADI....
Anybody else remember that?
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14 February 2010, 05:59
bartschequote:
Originally posted by pointblank:
quote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Back when I first started playing with 8208 I too ranked it like 3031.But using 3031 data started showing a little pressure.Using 2015 data seems a little more forgiving. Now that's just my take.
The newer stuff maybe a horse of a different color.
roger
Yeah, there were quite a few different lots of the original 8208 that varied greatly in burn rate. Some was almost as fast as 4198, and other lots were closer to 4895. Thats a WIDE range. Anyhow, the new stuff is certainly a different horse in a number of ways...
I'll see if I can get some from a new lot and test it agaist some That is still on hand from about 12 years ago. Now my interst is perked.
roger
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