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A friend gave me half a box of these because I mentioned using 220's for a close range bush round for moose and black bear. He said I could have them because they were too damaging on the moose and deer he had shot with his 30/06. I don't think they will go fast enough in my 308 BLR to be a problem with meat destruction. Anyone have some Sierra 220 round nose loads they can share with me? How about quoting one or two out of their manual? I've already printed what steves pages offered. No I won't go out and buy the sierra manual because I have a half a box of bullets.  | ||
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email me, asking for a quickload on this... and what powerders you like quickload suggest h414, at 2400fps, at 52k psi jeffe | |||
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Boiler: Jeffe gave a good recommendation. I would also play with W 748. 35 grains would be a place to start. Having used the 220 grain Round Nose a lot, I am at a loss on how your friend had too much meat damage, unless he is shooting them out of a mag Like a 30/378 at something close with a velocity that is way out there on the scale. If Range is under 250 yrd, the 220 grain RN is my "to go to" bullet in 30 caliber. I shoot it in a 30/40 Krag, of course the 30/06 and even a stoked load in a 300 Win Mag, when I do carry one ( which isn't often anymore) with a MV in excess of 2975 fps. I have even loaded it up in a 30/30 load. I think you will find it a good performer in your intended usage. Should be a nice Close Cover Rig. Good luck with it, Seafire | |||
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Quote: I'm scratching my head on that one too. I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.  Jeffe I'll send that e-mail off tomorrow. Thanks. | |||
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The 220 Sierra is one of the best Soft Points you could buy for your 308 or 30-06. I also doubt the talk of too much meat damage in the 30-06 with this bullet, unless the Moose is shot in the hind quarters, then surely it would damage some prime meat. | |||
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Boilerroom, Best to look for more specifics than the Sierra Manual. It doesn't show any loads for the 220's in the .308. Lee manual shows the following START loads for AA powders: 2495 BR -> 36.0 (38.5 MAX) 2460-> 35.4 (37.0 MAX) 2700-> 38.5 (42.0 MAX) 2520-> 37.4 (38.0 MAX) 2230-> 35.1 (36.0 MAX) START loads for Hodgdon (from Loadbook) H4831 -> 43.0 (47.0 MAX) H450 -> 44.0 (48.0 MAX) H4350 -> 43.0 (46.0 MAX) H414 -> 40.5 (44.0 MAX) H380 -> 39.5 (43.0 MAX) BLC2 -> 35.0 (38.0 MAX) H335 -> 34.0 (36.0 MAX) H4895 -> 34.0 (37.0 MAX) If you load a lot for the .308, I would really suggest you pick up one of the Loadbooks for it. It contains a lot more loads for 220's. But I suspect most are for the MK's in 220. | |||
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Be forewarned that many 308 barrels do not have a fast enough twist to stabilize a 220 grain bulllet. I think you need a 1:10 for the 220. My Browning .308 will not stabilize a 200 grain bullet! I have pretty much settled on 180 gr. as max for the 308 with 1:12 twist. You do have the best chance of stabilization with the RN of any 220 grain bullet though. | |||
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Oldguy Thanks for the data. Don The thought of barrel twist crossed my mind and I failed to mention it. Good point. We'll see how they do at 100 yrds at the range. I will decide then. My friends 30/06 that was destroying meat was a BLR too. I was just going to go with 180 RN bullets from the beginning but had only mentioned to my friend about the 220 because he now has the equipment to make bullets. He's only making 30 cal at the moment and the 308 is my only 30. | |||
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I have found the 220 Sierra to be the softest of any 220 gr. bullet I have used, but it should be ok in a .308 I would think, it is too soft IMO for the 30-06 if you hit heavy bone it will come apart..I assure you that the 180 Corelokt is a better bullet for the use you mention, its a lot tougher bullet. My favorite 220 gr. bullet is the Nosler and the Woodleigh. but again the Nosler out of 300 mag of any kind is a bit soft up front, but it sure does kill things well, same for the 200 gr. Nosler, what a hammer!..... | |||
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Quote: Jeff E-mail sent. | |||
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Quote: I must strongly disagree. I have shot the 220 gr. Sierra from my Winchester M70 (1 in12" twist) and groups avarage .375" at one hundred yards. Velocity is right at 2300 FPS with W-760 powder. (caution, max load in my rifle so I won't give the charge.) It's strange, but at one time, the 30-40 Krag was once considered to be a better elk cartridge with it's 220 gr. bullet at 2000 FPS than the 30-06 with the same bullet at 2400 FPS. Yet, the .308 which can reach 2250-2300 FPS is consider a poor load???? Beats hell out of me. Just a thought here. I do believe that possible 2250 FPS would be about as high as you can go in a .308 with the 1 in 10" twist. The slightly slower 1 in 12" would, I believe allow slightly heavier charges with the 220 gr. bullet. I do agree that the round nose bullet is the best bet to properly stabilize. That blankety-blank MK is way too long to use in a .308, and I think stabilaztion would be mighty iffy. Paul B. | |||
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Sorry to bring back an old post from the dead, but I have a question about using 220's in the .308. I have a bunch of Hornady 220 roundnoses, and thought they might make a good load for my carbine to use as a home protection type round. Not looking for accuracy at distance, only up to 50 yards. The problem is the powers I have are IMR4350 and Reloder 15. Neither one has charts that go up to bullets this heavy. Anybody think I can use these powders? Any idea what kind of starting load? | |||
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Lyman's (47th) lists 43-48 grs of IMR4350 and 37.8-42.2 grs of R15 for a 200 gr jacketed bullet (heaviest listed) in the .308. | |||
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Alright, I'll start w 35 grs of R15 and go from there. Thanks! | |||
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Let us know how it works. I've got a bunch of 220's gathering dust that I might try in my 308. | |||
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Ok, I'll give the data I use with the 220 gr. Sierra in my Win. M70. Powder is W-760. The starting load is 42.0 gr. for 2177 with 42,000 C.U.P. The max load is 44.0 gr. for 2295 FPS at 46,000 C.U.P. For those interested in W-748, starting load is 36.0 gr. for 2111 FPS at 45,000 C.U.P. and the max load is 38.0 gr. for 2232 at 49,900 C.U.P. Of the two powders, my choice was W-760. Source for 220 gr. loads in the .308 can be found in the LOADBOOKS for the .308 Win. FWIW, my rifle digested the max load of W-760 with a velocity a bit over 2300 FPS, no pressure signs, primers nice and round and the bullets went into .375". So anyone who says the .308 won't handle of work with a 220 gr. bullet has either not tried it or just believes what the "eggspurts" in the gun rags all seem to agree on. They're not impressed because it doesn't shoot at 4000 FPS, shoot like a varmint rifle and the gun maker decided to not give him a freebie that day. Look at it this way. The 30-40 Krag was considered a damn good elk rifle in it's day at 220gr. at 2000 FPS. So a .308 Win. with the same bullet at 2200 to 2300 FPS depending on how your rifle shoots a bullet that heavy is no good? Gimme a break!  Paul B. | |||
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Paul, Thanks for the info. I'm adding it to my load data. | |||
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The Hornady 220 gr Round Nose is only 1.277" long, compared to a 168 gr hollow point boat tail at 1.225". I have a quantity of 220 round nose, and they stabilize in all my 1 in 10" barrels. | |||
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