I have a new Weatherby Super Big Game Master in 25-06 I have yet to find a load it likes. So far I have tried 54g of 4831, 49.5g of 4831 and 51 of 4350 all using a 100g nosler balistic tip. Have yet to find the groupd I want, any suggestions?

It may be related to your twist rate, Try a shorter bullet, like a Hornady SP. Some rifles just won't take to the longer bullets, I have a Savage .25/06 that won't shoot well with any bullet over 100 grains, and it doesn't like the 100 boattails, at that. For any normal hunting needs, boattails aren't needed, anyway. They don't even begin to get useful until past 350 yards, and most critters are killed at way less than that distance in the real world.

I have a Weatherby LT in 25-06. It will consitently shoot 3/4 to 1/2" 3-shot groups using 52 gr H4831SC and 117 gr Sierra GameKing flat base. It does not like 100 gr bullets at all.

Well, every gun is different, so who knows.

However, my dad and I have had great luck in our 25-06 rifles with the following:

W-W cases
Fed 210 primer
54 grains IMR 4831
Nosler 100 grain Partition

My rifle is a custom built gun on a Remington action, my dad's is a Weatherby Ultra Light. Both of them shoot 3/4 inch groups with this load and get right at 3400 fps.

We have shot more wild hogs and coyotes with this load than you would believe and have dropped a few deer and antelope with it as well.

Give it a try, R F

If that does not work, try using a Fed 215M primer, 54 grains of IMR 7828, and a Nosler 115 grain Ballistic Tip. This just shoots one hole groups in my rifle and has worked well on wild hogs and antelope as well. (Velocity is around 3150 fps)

Work up to these loads from a couple grains below.

R F

A friend started shooting 100gr BTs at my suggestion and couldn't get them to shoot worth a damn. With a little tinkering at the reloading bench we shrank the groups considerably, but still they were not acceptable. I had a couple boxes of 100gr Speer hollowpoints for a recipie using H870. We merely switched to these bullets and the groups were immediately in another ball park!

Re evaluate the brand and shape of the bullet you're using.

Are you using imr or hodgdon powders?If it is imr two of the loads you list are quite hot and you may benefit by reducing them slightly as some rifles prefer loads that are below max.You have only tried one charge of 4350 and the charges of 4831 vary by 4.5 grains which is a very large jump.You should start with the suggested starting loads and work up in one grain increments.You may find big improvements with other charge weights.How did you determine the overal cartridge length that you are using?If you used figures out of a manual without actually measuring the chamber of your rifle you may improve accuracy dramatically by varying your seating depth.

The 51 grains of IMR 4350 should hae been decent using the 100 grain BT. That load works very well using Speer 100 grain HP. For an all time favorite that you will have a hard time finding a 25-06 that won't shoot it, try 49.0 grains of IMR 4350 and a Sierra 117 grain Spitzer Boattail! CCI 200 or CCI BR-2 primer. If that one doesen't work then go to 48.5 grains of ReLoader 19 115 grain Nosler BT, CCI-250 primer. Ad then if still not satisfied try 57.0 grains of ReLoader 19 and an 85 grain Nosler BT and CCI-250 primer. All of these bullets are seated just touching the lands. If none of the loads listed work.....trade rifles!!! I would bet on these loads working though! GHD (pastor at the church of GHD-25-06)

My ruger 25-06 with 100 gr nosler bt loves RL22 would not shoot IMR 4350 very well but 100 gr hornady interlocks shot great with 4350. The 75 vmax was great with RL19 and shot acceptable groups with most bullets...suggest you give RL22 or 19 a try.

And so now you have plenty of suggestions to try.

Please come back and let us know what works so we can all learn!

OK?

Try some 117s or 120s in your rifle. I've had a couple of these and one shot well with lighter bullets, one shot better with the heavier.

Is this gun for hunting or shooting?My Sako 25.06 does not like ballistic tips.For big game I max load
48.2 grains of IMR 4895 with Hornady 120 grain hollow points and Winchester large rifle primers.OAL is 3.200.

I HAD a Weatherby Ultra Light in 25-06. I tried lots of loads with different bullets and still couldn't better 1.5 inch groups. I traded for a Browning A Bolt in the same caliber. So far it shows promise. Using "junk" bullets and loads to break in the barrel it shot 20 shots into 1.25 inches. I'm hoping!

Bob257

One thing you did not list was your cartridge OAL. I've found that with some rifles, varying the OAL by .005 up or down resulted in much better accuracy. Seating to just touch the rifling works with some rifle, BUT not all. Do a little experimenting with seating depth.

I have Ruger #1V in the caliber, and it is a disaster with factory loads. It also won't shoot well with handloads unless I am very close to full throttle... But then it starts to perform. My powder of choice with this caliber is VV N165, favourite load 58 grs behind Sierra 100 gr Matchking, seated out to the rifling - which is a looooong way on this rifle....
I do have heard from others that this is a bit typical for .25-06, you really need to go to high-end loads in order to get good accuracy - it cvertainly is so in MY rifle. So my suggestion is to work up approaching max. loads cautiously, and you just might see those groups start shrinking.

Most accurate load I have used in my 25/06 is 117 gr sierra SpBT--50grs IMR4831--CCI250 Fed case-OAL is 0010" off the lands. Accuracy is 1/2 moa-Vel is 2995ft/sec.

Had a very tempermental 25/06, that sucker wound up with a 1-12 twist and would not shoot under 3/4 inch at 100 until, I switched to 87gn hornady spire pts, it liked FA 60 match 06 cases(very heavy military.) neck turned and a max load of either 4064 or 4895. Then it did exceed 3800fps. though on occasion until I switched to fed 215br would pop a primer. This was not a light load, very high pressure load but then it did shoot, l/4 moa.

http://www.nookhill.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=000311 This has lots of 25-06 loads. My Weatherby favorite for deeor is a 90 grain X bullet over 54.0 IMR 4831. I did not have luck with the BT in 100 grain as well as 115 grain. Hope this helps

Hcliff

So far my Sako 75 hunter in 25.06 is picky about what gives the best accuracy.After loading many different bullet and powder combinations, here is what works best in this rifle.Sadly it is factory ammo in the form of Winchester 120 grain (PEP) positive expanding points that is giving this rifle great accuracy.I am still trying to better it with handloads,but have not come close yet.I have tried Hornady 120 grain HPs,100 and 115 Nosler SBTs and 115 grain Barnes Triple Shocks with both IMR 4350 and IMR 7828.All are OK ,but not great.Worth a try if you come to the end of your rope.You did not mention your oal.Maybe seating depth is an issue. Good luck.

Your load developement leaves much to be desired. You tried three random loads with two different powders and expected one of those three loads to shoot well. That is called winning the lottery reloading method in my book. You prep your cases properly, select a bullet weight compatable with your bore twist. The 25-06 usually has a 1 in 10" bore twist. You should begin at the starting load and load three rounds each in 1/2 grain increment increases to maximum load listed. with your bullet seated to just kiss the lands, you then select the group that shot best. You can now experiment with seating depth to try to shrink your best group further. You have not scratched the surface in reloading for the great shooting 25-06 cartridge. Adopt sound scensible regimented reloading practices, and half your work is already done.

The chances of grabbing a load out of thin air and having that load be a tack driver in any rifle is extremely rare. It can happen but don't bet your house on that premise. My particular 25-06 likes 48 gr. H-4831 powder with the 115 or 117 gr. bullet. That is not to say it will not shoot lighter weigh bullet very well and it does.