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Advantages to protected point partitions
02 December 2005, 22:24
MThuntrAdvantages to protected point partitions
I was wondering if anybody knows if there are any advantages to a Protect point partition by Nosler. I have found a good deal on them. The look to be a stronger bullet, but I have no experience with them. What are the designed for?
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02 December 2005, 22:36
stubblejumperThey are designed so the lead points don't get distorted like on the standard partition.
02 December 2005, 22:36
grizz007they are no different in physical design than a Speer Grand Slam or a Swift A Frame but as in all bullets the construction is what is key. I suspect you're only question is in relation to flight more than, is it a partition cause it is, for hunting purposes and at nominal ranges it is a very good bullet and will do quite well. If long range shooting is you're choice I would opt for the spitzer or some kind of ballistic tip.
02 December 2005, 22:44
MThuntrThese bullets would be used for hunting at ranges up to 300 yards, but more often less than 250 yards.
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03 December 2005, 00:01
brianboI've bought alot of 2nds in 30 cal, 180 grn protected point partitions from Nosler. Once when I was down there in the early 90's their ballistician told me that their tests with that bullet in 300 Win Mag, showed it to be more accurate than the spitzer in same bullet weight.
I use them without reservation.
Regards,
Brian
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03 December 2005, 00:32
MThuntrYeah! The PP Partitions are factory 2nds, but I see nothing wrong with that. At less than $10 for 50 I plan on buying few bags.
The PP will be used in my 300 WSM so I don't see a disadvantage to the shorter bullet because those necks are pretty short themselves.
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03 December 2005, 01:27
adamsWhen reading the Nosler manual under .300 Win. Mag. Nosler claims they specifically built the Protect Point for the .300 Win. Mag.
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03 December 2005, 04:45
cummins cowboywhat do they look like?? what is the PP made out of?? I couldn't find a pic on the website
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03 December 2005, 05:04
brianboCummins Cowboy - They look like a partition with a flat point. I don't mean to imply that they can be used in a tube magazine levergun,
they cannot! They differ from a standard partition spitzer in three ways.
1) They have a cannelure because they are mfg. for Federal and they crimp to a cannelure in all their factory ammo.
2) The apeture or opening at the nose of the jacket material is approx. the same as a spitzer, but the lead protrudes <1/16" and is flattened instead of pointed.
3) Because there is more lead retained inside the jacket, the ogive is slightly different than a partition spitzer.
Regards,
Brian
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03 December 2005, 06:15
Leo MThis bullet is on the Nosler web site. Go to Partion and then click on the square at the bottom of the page that says "Bullet Chart" and there you will see a picture of every Partition. There is NO cannelure on the Protected point, but there is on the 170 grain bullet for the 30-30. I have been trying to get an ansewer about accuracuy on this bullet and I think
brianbo just ansewered that for me. Thank you ever so much.
03 December 2005, 06:57
buckshotIt was my understanding that this bullet was developed specifically for the .300 Winchester magnum.
03 December 2005, 07:03
McInnisI bought two boxes of 180 grn .308 Protected Point Partions from Nosler. They were factory seconds, and they do have cannelures. Factory firsts I've bought in the black box did not have them.
Even though they have a lot lower BC I find them to be more accurate because (I guess) I can stay withing the max. COL for my 30-06 and still seat them to where they are closer to the lands.
03 December 2005, 07:04
cummins cowboywhy don't they make them with a poly tip on them like the ballistic tip, if nothing else it would look cool
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03 December 2005, 17:56
naja302this bullet may be an exception, but in general aren't protectec points a little tougher in the expansion department (ie: swift A-frame, northforks, etc) I was under the impression that PP's controlled (slowed) expansion some. Something I would find appealing on the nosler partition sincd its front half is built like a ballistic tip (very thin jacket for rapid expansion)