I am looking for a cartridge 1.750 long or longer with the same .440 or .445 head size of the 7.62X39 and PPCs. A source for basic cases on this case head would also work. Any help appreciated.

Fireplug

I'm dredging this up from memory, but I seem to remember that the 25 and 30 Rem cartridges(not the more common 35Rem) used a head thats the same size as the 7,62x39.

Gentlemen,

According to John J. Donnelly's THE HANDLOADER'S MANUAL OF CARTRIDGE CONVERSION,

The 220 Russian head diamter is 0.441
30 Remington = 0.422
35 Remington = 0.460

There is always the 7.62X45 out there just cause those pesky Czech's refused to go along 100% with those occupying forces telling them what to do!
LouisB
By the way I have no idea what that is in inches, but close I think.
50 mm= about 2"
LouisB

[ 11-17-2002, 05:43: Message edited by: TCLouis ]

Fireplug: This case head size has a long history. It began with the 6.5x52 Mannlicher-Carcano and the rimmed 6.5x53R Mannlicher in the early 1890s. These begat the 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer and the 7.35 mm Carcano, the use of the latter by the Finns in WWII inspiring the Russians to develop the 7.62x39. They also inspired the US 6mm Lee Navy of 1895, which, with a semi-rim added, begat the .220 Swift. If you have access to a lathe the Swift case would be your best choice; you would just need to turn down the rim and deepen the extractor groove. Otherwise you will have to search for some Boxer primed 6.5x52 or 6.5x54 brass (Norma used to make this, but I don't know if it is still in production). Hope this helps. Cheers, Al.

Thanks All,

The 6.5X52, as suggested by ClassicAl, seems to be the only reasonably accessable choice. The Graf/Hornady colaboration is making brass for these available and reasonable.

Now, the why I am interested. Thinking of building a CZ527 in something 6.5 and 1.750- 1.850 " long, or to stay metric 6.5X45-47, as a handy little woods companion that would be capable of deer if asked.

Fireplug

There is a RUMOR floating around that Norma is contemplating producing brass for that pesky Chech 7.62x45. Several AR types are besides themselves over that possibility..... LOL! Dutch.