so i was making 219 wasp cases out of 30/30 brass which means cutting off quite a bit of brass off and i was making a 100 or cases.how to do it quick? took a piece of wood and cut in a thickness about 1/16" thicker than the finished case length. drilled holes in the wood piece just about the size of the case body and stuck the cases in the holes - clamped it to a bench and took a 4" grinder across the tops. finished with case trimmer

You can do much the same with a table saw and an old plywood blade. Brass cuts easy.

I use a Dremel Tool with the thin cut-off wheel. No ragged edges and you can cut to almost the length you need.Saves lots of case trimmer time.
Very fast.

I've used a pipe cutter in the past, but recently moved to chucking them in the lathe and parting them off, quicker than the pipe cutter.

Cheers.

I've used a Dremel tool with the fiber reinforced cutting wheel when making 30 Herrett cases from 30/30 brass. Make your rough cut with the Dremel and finish up with your trimmer.

Lots of brass to trim? Get one of these. Just awesome!
Worlds Finest Trimmer II

For all my case trimming I use my 35 year-old Lyman Trimmer with the electric drill attachment.
I tend not to do any loading steps in race mode so, and I'm just guessing here, it probably takes me 20-25 seconds to trim a 30/06 case to a x57 length. Then there's another 5-8 seconds to chamfer the "slag" both inside and out.
Works for me.

If you have a lot of cases to trim it's worthwhile to invest in one of these.


http://www.harborfreight.com/2...t-off-saw-61900.html

I use my 12 inch lathe for that job.

Rusty

I like the idea of the little crow but it falls terribly short with no inside nor outside chamfer

The cutter is just an endmill

I recommend the little crow to a friend....I regret that now

The RCBS caliber specific cutter with inside and outside chamfer outshines for speed but doesnt help the OP

Look at the Giraud. It is not inexpensive, but the cut length indexes off the datum line. If you are careful with how you re-size, trim length is within .001-.002". And cases are de-burred and inside chamfered as well.

I sincerely believe it is the best on the market...

I was given a C&H power case trimmer, but it takes a longer shanked pilot then my forster pilots.
I can't find it on the C&H website if they still have pilots for it or not. Anyone know?

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Originally posted by Doubless:
Look at the Giraud. It is not inexpensive, but the cut length indexes off the datum line. If you are careful with how you re-size, trim length is within .001-.002". And cases are de-burred and inside chamfered as well.

I sincerely believe it is the best on the market...

Regardless of price this machine won't address the OP

buddy uses that with a custom jig to make 300blk from 223.

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Originally posted by M16:
If you have a lot of cases to trim it's worthwhile to invest in one of these.


http://www.harborfreight.com/2...t-off-saw-61900.html

Ted, It doesn't have a chamfer in or out. I use an RCBS Trim Mate for that.

I realize it's an endmill. Along with the Trim Mate it cranks them out.

If it had the inside/outside chamfer it would be a great tool (Little Crow)

The sole reason I use the RCBS combo cutting head is that after trimming you are done 100%

But like I said....speed vs lots of brass in the op's case is length of brass not pcs/volume

Ted, is this trimmer the one you are talking about?
RCBS trimmer

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

quote:

Originally posted by Doubless:
Look at the Giraud. It is not inexpensive, but the cut length indexes off the datum line. If you are careful with how you re-size, trim length is within .001-.002". And cases are de-burred and inside chamfered as well.

I sincerely believe it is the best on the market...

Regardless of price this machine won't address the OP

How so, Ted? It trims to length, de-burrs and inside chamfers, all at one time.

Unless you have used one, you are mistaken. Nothing personal, but you are incorrect this time... I have one, and it is incredible.

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Originally posted by Doubless:

quote:

Originally posted by ted thorn:

quote:

Originally posted by Doubless:
Look at the Giraud. It is not inexpensive, but the cut length indexes off the datum line. If you are careful with how you re-size, trim length is within .001-.002". And cases are de-burred and inside chamfered as well.

I sincerely believe it is the best on the market...

Regardless of price this machine won't address the OP

How so, Ted? It trims to length, de-burrs and inside chamfers, all at one time.

Unless you have used one, you are mistaken. Nothing personal, but you are incorrect this time... I have one, and it is incredible.

Please explane how the op would use a Giraud to cut 30-30 brass to length for the forming of the .219 wasp?

It is really quite simple, since the 219 Donaldson Wasp COL is longer than the datum line on the 30-30... all that is required is to trim to the Wasp length plus probably an extra .030" or so in the Giraud with the 30-30 die, then re-size in the Wasp FL die. Depending on how close he calculates, he might get by with only one trimming.

Or: he can re-size to the Wasp, then cut the neck to the desired length using the Wasp die.

Either way works. The only possible question would be whether or not Giraud offers the 219 Wasp die. (And he probably doesn't, but that was not your question.)

Like I said: unless you own one, you really have no idea how efficient they are...

True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

Ted,
Does that in your opinion flaw the process?

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

Give it up... you are fighting a losing battle. I answered your questions. As Rusty said: "Does that in your opinion somehow flaw the process?"

But to answer your question (again...), technically, no. You push the case against the carbide cutting head, and when it stops cutting, you turn the case about half a turn backward to finish and fine tune the cut, then remove the case and do it again. The die is spring loaded; you push down until it contacts the cutting head, then continue to push as metal is removed.

There is a video on Youtube. Watch it. It might show you something that would eliminate questions.

You guys and your fancy equipment.

I've trimmed 100s of cases using my Basic Forester with a power adaptor so I could drive it with my drill. A Lot were 30&35 Herrets. Would be the same as what you are doing.

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Originally posted by Doubless:

quote:

Originally posted by ted thorn:
True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

Give it up... you are fighting a losing battle. I answered your questions. As Rusty said: "Does that in your opinion somehow flaw the process?"

But to answer your question (again...), technically, no. You push the case against the carbide cutting head, and when it stops cutting, you turn the case about half a turn backward to finish and fine tune the cut, then remove the case and do it again. The die is spring loaded; you push down until it contacts the cutting head, then continue to push as metal is removed.

There is a video on Youtube. Watch it. It might show you something that would eliminate questions.

Give what up?

Listen....I can do without the jackass attitude

I asked a question....you respond with smartass remarks.....gfy

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Originally posted by Rusty:

quote:

Originally posted by ted thorn:
True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

Ted,
Does that in your opinion flaw the process?

Not at all Rusty

When I used the little crow I did find that latex gloves helped with the grip

My fingers did get sore after the first hundred so I wouldnt use it for 500+ p-dog trimming

The Rcbs machine you picture plus the 3 way cutter is what I use for large volumes say 100 to 1k

Thank you for the information, Ted.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:

quote:

Originally posted by Doubless:

quote:

Originally posted by ted thorn:
True

but tell me this....

Do you hold the brass in your hand during the cutting process the same as the little crow?

Give it up... you are fighting a losing battle. I answered your questions. As Rusty said: "Does that in your opinion somehow flaw the process?"

But to answer your question (again...), technically, no. You push the case against the carbide cutting head, and when it stops cutting, you turn the case about half a turn backward to finish and fine tune the cut, then remove the case and do it again. The die is spring loaded; you push down until it contacts the cutting head, then continue to push as metal is removed.

There is a video on Youtube. Watch it. It might show you something that would eliminate questions.

Give what up?

Listen....I can do without the jackass attitude

I asked a question....you respond with smartass remarks.....gfy

Uh, no... you asked several questions. I did not respond smart alecky; I said you were fighting a losing battle. And as I saw it, you were.

You have an awfully short fuse. Get over yourself.