I have always wanted a 45-70, and finally broke down and purchased a new Marlin 1895.

The gun dealer told me you can load this to the same limits as the Ruger No. 1.

All the loading books I have looked at, show separate loading data for the 1895, and others in good condition, separate from the Ruger load data.

For now, I will not exceed anything in that listing, but do those load manuals refer to older 1895's or are they all the same.

Just wondering, and if someone has any good info. I would appreciate it very much.

HL

I think that most loading manuals will list lower pressure loads for the generic "Marlin 1895" since they cannot take the chance that the reloader doesn't know the difference between the old and the new.

The new Marlins are on a par with the Ruger and Siamese bolt actions and most any reasonable load can be used. However there are "Super Loads" that should be used only in the Rugers and Mausers but I doubt if any manuals will show them.

The milder 45-70 loads will kick enough in a Marlin and I doubt if you will be inclined to shoot a lot of the hotter loads, regardless.

Ray

That depends a lot on the source of the data, Hodgdon puts Ruger data limit at 50kcup and 1895 at 40kcup. Other sources limit Ruger data anywhere from 35 to 40kcup.

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Marlin
Hornady 40,000
Speer 28,000
Lyman 28,000

Ruger
Hornady 50,000
Speer 35,000
Lyman 40,000

Here's some data from Realguns and Beartooth for the 1895.

http://www.realguns.com/loads/4570.htm

http://beartoothbullets.com/open_sight/archive_open_sight.htm/21

Thanks for the replies.
I doubt I will want or have the need to exceed the top listed charges for the lever data. They look to be pretty stiff loads, IMO.

Again, thanks,

HL

Shoot the realguns loads, and you will find it kicks so hard that you don't want to go any higher.

Yep, a flinch-o-matic in the making!

Most folks are are intrigued by the heavy .45-70 loads right up until they touch one off in a 7 pound rifle.

The Marlin is not in the same league as a #1. You can run sone impressive loads out of the Marlin but the #1 is another level up.