In case anyone is interested I found a recipe for some case lube using liquid lanolin and 99% isopropyl alcohol that works really well and it's cheap and there's no toxic liquids in it. It's also non-petroleum so it won't deteriorate primers.

I mixed it up using one ounce of lanolin to 12 ounces of alcohol in a plastic spray bottle that I had laying around. I put the one ounce of lanolin in a shot glass and stuck it in the microwave oven for a few seconds to heat it up so it would mix easier. I put the bottle of alcohol in a bowl of hot water and let it set for a while to warm it up too.

I couldn't find any lanolin at the pharmacies near me so I ordered it on Amazon. A 4 ounce bottle cost me $9.03. The cheapest isopropyl alcohol I found was the Iso HEET in the red bottle that you can get at an auto parts store or at Walmart in the auto department for $1.97 for a 12 ounce bottle. It's 99% isopropyl alcohol, just not medical grade. Regular rubbing alcohol is around 96% which the rest is water.

I put my cases in a one gallon Zip-Lock bag and give them a few sprays of the mixture and rolled them around in it and dumped them on a towel on my work bench for a few minutes to let the alcohol dry and it left a nice film of lanolin on the cases that worked in my sizing die really well.

And as a bonus if you have rough dry hands the lanolin works good on them too.








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Vaseline has been working for ions, and not only on guns!!

LIke it is a good rust preventive also...Ha, gotcha ya on that one!

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Vaseline has been working for ions, and not only on guns!!

LIke it is a good rust preventive also...Ha, gotcha ya on that one!

Vaseline is petroleum based and it ruins more than just primers. There's a lot of people alive today due to what vaseline does to certain rubber products. So who got who now?

Cover the floor of your sheep pen with cases', put in the sheep , and let them roll around on the floor --Cases nicely lubed with lanolin !!

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for me it don't matter what I use as lube. I clean whatever I use out.. so whatever I use. I end up with a clean case before I start reloading. I don't lube/ resize/ reload... I lube/resize/clean in tumbler/inspect/ prime/reload..

I guess I've never used enough lube on the 10's of thousands of rounds I've loaded over the past 45 years to worry too much about cheap lube in large quantities.

I also remove it all before reloading since this is when I inspect and trim.

For mass produced straight-wall cases I use a carbide die and load progressively.

Nice tip however for those who want to roll that way.

Zeke

All recipes for stuck cases; I recommend all new reloader, there is no need to try to make your own. Even if it worked. Which I guess it does, for some. Vaseline; No for several reasons.

I've been using good old Imperial Sizing Die Wax for many years, with perfect satisfaction -- but then I don't load huge quantities of anything.

Bill i don't think there is anything better and it ends the dented case problem.

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Originally posted by dpcd:
All recipes for stuck cases; I recommend all new reloader, there is no need to try to make your own. Even if it worked. Which I guess it does, for some.

I said "for people that are interested" if you're not interested in making your own lube then don't.

I think it works great!!! In fact I use the same IssoHeat and the same brand of aloe which I get from a vitamin factory outlet near by. It also helps to give the inside of your sizing die a shot a couple of minutes before sizing to let the alcohol time to evaporate. I think it is similar to the aerosol Hornady One Shot case lube.

Hip

Hey Rook, thanks for the recipe! I will give it a try. I have used the Hornady One shot for years and thousands of rounds with perfect satisfaction, but when the Sandy Hook incident drove the reloading component market dry, it was very hard to come by. I guess some folks memories are short, or don't think it can happen again, but I am always looking for alternatives to keep me shooting thruout whatever crisis may occur. In the old days we used STP, what a mess! Thanks for sharing!
Hipshoot, are you saying that using Aloe/alcohol in the same proportions as Rook posted, works the same?
Lee

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
I've been using good old Imperial Sizing Die Wax for many years, with perfect satisfaction -- but then I don't load huge quantities of anything.

Funny enough, I think there is a better sizing lube.

I have been using the Imperial Sizing for years, and love it.

A while back my friend Todd Kindler of the Woodchuck Den sent me some of his own sizing lube.

I was forming cases for a new wildcat we are developing - the 223 Remington necked up to 30 caliber.

I used some Imperial on some of teh cases, and I used the Woodchuck Den Sizing Lube on others.

The ones with the Woodchuck Den lube were much easier to neck up.

Currently I am developing loads for with our 338 Caliber Walterhog bullets in a 338 Lapua.

These are large cases, and require quite a bit of lube to size easily.

Again, I used Imperial on some, and the Woodchuck Den's on others.

The ones with the Woodchuck Den's run through the die much easier, so I stopped using Imperial.

As a rule, after sizing, I lay the cases on tissue paper, and spray them with degreaser, and roll them.

That removes any lube left on teh cases.

I make my own swage lube.
if I'm gonna shove a jacket and core into a 500-750 dollar die I want them to come back out.
it just happens to work nicely for case sizing too.
I know we all like hard so i'll give you guy's 2 recipes.
the first one is anhydrous lanolin and Vaseline mixed 50-50.
the second is anhydrous lanolin and castor oil mixed 2 to 1 then 10% neets foot oil is added.

to lube the cases get a 1 gallon zip lock baggie.
get a Q-tip and cut the cotton head off.
swipe the Q-tip stick in the lube so you have the same amount of lube as the q-tip head was in volume.
wipe the lube in the bag.
pour in 100 cases and squish them around in the bag.

you can make 7.65 argie cases from 30-06 in one pass.

throw the cases in your tumbler for an hour to remove the lube.

If you don't like the feel of the lanolin on your cases you can use Lee Sizing Lube instead mixed with the 99% isopropyl alcohol.

I took a 2 ounce tube of Lee Lube and dissolved it in 8 ounces of Iso Heet which is 99% Isopropyl alcohol. You can adjust it to the thickness of your liking by adding a little more or less alcohol.

I still think the lanolin is a little slicker in the die but the Lee spray works and is a little drier for people that don't like the greaser feel of the lanolin.

I am frugal I think I well mix some up and I like to do things my self.

Lee440,
The last batch I made up was 3/4 oz of aloe and 12 oz of IssoHeat-------works great even at that ratio. I am loading app 60 rds. of rifle ammo a week and one batch lasts me a year for only a couple of bucks. The one oz batch seemed a little greasy but the 3/4 oz batch wasn't as greasy and works just fine. Just remember to shake very well before each use!

Hip

Didn't know ISO HEET was 99%. I made my first/last batch with 91%. Works fine 2 oz lanolin 32 oz alcohol. 4 oz lanolin was too much lube. Since I started with 4 ounces I had to get another bottle of alcohol and split the mix into a second sprayer. Now I have a 32 ounce bottle and a bottle with about 30 ounces. About 10 years worth maybe.

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Originally posted by Rook49:

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Originally posted by dpcd:
All recipes for stuck cases; I recommend all new reloader, there is no need to try to make your own. Even if it worked. Which I guess it does, for some.

I said "for people that are interested" if you're not interested in making your own lube then don't.

Rook
Never mind some of these guys, the biggest whiners are so stuck in "one way" to do things they try to spoil anyone elses ideas.
I use to use a Lyman spray lube that is now non existent switched to Hornady spray but it is hard to find here. I definitely like spray lubes.
Imperial is an imperial pain in the ass to use, you have to get it all over your fingers and then individually rub it on each case!? ridiculous.
I'll try your method Rook, thanks for sharing.
I wonder if I dissolve some imperial in alcohol if that will work, might as well I'm not going to use my Imperial any other way, sick of getting it on my fingers and having to handle each case.

If you use a pad to roll your cases on to lube them plain old STP oil treatment works just like some of the expensive case lubes sold by several companies. You get a big bottle for less than 1/2 the price of a little 2 oz bottle.....no mixing

Lanolin and achohol works great, costs pennies per thousand cases, who could ask for more. The neatest thing is you can inside neck lude and body lube all at once- put a bunch of cases in a bread pan, tilt at a 20-30 deg angle and gently swish it around- cases stand up like a good bunch of Marines at attention, use a fine mist setting on your spray bottle, and fire away- about three or four squirts into the case mouths.... Then, shake the pan and roll the cases around a bit. Set aside for a few minutes to let the alcohol evaporate, then size away.

Like a solid wax, it does not dent cases, like a liquid it goes on very easily. Best of both worlds. Oh, and lanolin does not polymerize in contact w/ oxygen, so no crud build up like veggie oil based products.

In a pinch, grab mommas vegetable oil spray can for lubing baking pans- I like the Pam variety w/o flour of course....

I have a tube of the Lee case lube....never used it

I'm going to cut it with alcohol and use it up in a spray bottle

Nice idea

Until and unless I can get my hands on some sperm oil, these homebrew formula's just are not worth my time..

I don't use Vaseline just passed that on as I know some that still do...

I use Imperial Die wax, always have and always will and that small can lasts and lasts forever..It flat out works best of all...

I made my spray lube for speed. It takes a lot of time putting lube on cases one at a time by rolling them around on a pad or smearing it on with your fingers.

I can spray a hundred or more cases at a time in just a few seconds and be reloading them in the time it takes to lube a half a dozen cases individually.

I like your ideas and will no doubt try them