I use the 208 gn A-max on deer, but have an elk hunt coming up this fall. Was wondering if you-all would have a recommedation for an elk bullet in the same weight range. .300 WSM Thanks, Mark

You'll never go wrong with Nosler's partition. Their Accubond has turned in great results at the range so it's worth a look too.

200gr bullet for sure. NP or Grand Slam, whichever your rifle likes.

giladad1 ----- Be sure to try the North Forks before you make your final decision. Good shooting.

Consider the 180gr Nosler partition. I have put quite a few elk down with the 180 in my 300 Winchester and my 30/378 Weatherby. Most were down within 75 yds. It will also provide a little flatter trajectory.

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Originally posted by giladad1:
I use the 208 gn A-max on deer,

Just out of curiosity ,what type results do you get with that A-Max on deer? Large or small deer? Thanks roger

I've used the 200 A-Frame on Kudu and Gemnsbok.....it's a helluva bullet.

Hey giladad

The 300WSM is not supposed to be as good a shooter with the heavier bullet >180 gr, I guess because those heavy bullets are longer and seat too deep in those short cases. Takes up a lot of the powder space you need for slow burning powders that are appropriate for the heavy bullets. A 168 gr TSX or 180 NP would be about ideal for that caliber (IMO).

That being said, I have had excellent accuracy with the 200 gr Accubond in a 300 win mag and 30-06. Stoke it up with RL22 or RL19 and see what happens.

I use 150 gr; cor-locks on deer, elk, and antelope. We use 30-06 and 308. I might consider 165's or 180's but that all for me. It's about 90% where you hit em rather than how heavy/ fast a bullet is.
Way back when I was just starting to reload I ask a uncle that had 'got his elk' 17 years in a row, I followed his advice and have never been sorry. We're way above 50 kills probably closer to 100 with this load with darn few bullets ever recovered less than 5.

Hit the game where it should be hit, don't shoot when you shouldn't shoot, is what really counts.

The one Cor-lock did recover from a elk had taken out about 4 inches of neck bone on through the shoulder blade and had came to rest against the hide. It still weighted about 90 grains. I had knocked that elk down and when it got about halfway to it;s feet I shot the bullet I recovered.
I am not knocking any bullet or caliber here but think for the most part we are fed a buncha hype, in to many magazines. Remington had figured out decades ago what worked on game. It is now considered the cheap stuff, but works as good as any, at any price if you shoot em where ya should.

i agree with remington33. If you put the bullet where it needs to go, you don't need a heavy bullet. i went hunting with some guys who use 130 core lokt in their .270's. If they have a cow tag, they just shoot her in the head if the shot presents itself, if not, just place the bullet in the heart, lungs area. Personally i would use no less than a 150gr. If you are hunting an extremely rugged landscape i would recommend a heaver bullet for higher knock down power.
just my .02

For years I used the 180 gr. Nosler and Woodleighs in my 300 H&H, then I tride the 200 gr. Nosler and Woodleigh and I have never gone back to the 180 gr.

The 200 gr. Nosler is my everything load in my 300 H&H these days. They won over the Woodleigh only because they are available locally, no other reason, the 200 gr. Woodleigh is an awesome bullet in the 06 or the 300's.....I am sure the Northfork would be just as good, but have not used in except on Cape Buffalo and in larger calibers..

Bartsche, very small deer, Coues deer. The shots can at times be quite long. The country is very large and open. My rifle took 3 bucks last year, the A-maxes worked extremely well. I just wanted something in a similar wght that would work effectively on elk. Thanks for all the responses. I did'nt know Nosler made a 200 gn. Accubond. That sounds like what I need. Mark

I use 140 grain A-Max bullets in a 6.5 swede (modern steyr). It really does a good job on deer. Through and through.

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Originally posted by giladad1:
Bartsche, very small deer, Coues deer. The shots can at times be quite long. The country is very large and open. My rifle took 3 bucks last year, the A-maxes worked extremely well. I just wanted something in a similar wght that would work effectively on elk. Thanks for all the responses. I did'nt know Nosler made a 200 gn. Accubond. That sounds like what I need. Mark

I guess the reason I asked was in an effort to understand why that 208gr. bullet would not work on elk. I'm not at all familiar with it's performance going through Hide Tissue and Bone and how deep it will penetrate. roger

Very explosive on these small deer. Does not exit. It's nowhere near an elk bullet in my mind. Sure does the job on the Coues though! Mark

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Originally posted by giladad1:
Very explosive on these small deer. Does not exit. It's nowhere near an elk bullet in my mind. Sure does the job on the Coues though! Mark

That good info. Thanks ,Mark. roger

Coues deer changes the bullet picture. If your hunting in Arizona. Texas or Mexico, then I would recommend a 150 gr. Nosler. It kills them well and is not real explosive. Shots can be very long so you need to keep the velocity at least 2800 FPS IMO..

My favorite Coues deer caliber has always been the 250 Savage with 100 or 87 gr. bullets. We had a good population of them on the ranch I leased in Texas, along with good Mule deer.

I have shot close to a dozen moose with the 130 grain in a .270 Win
That was back in the day when I only had one rifle and I waited for the broadside shot. Now I would go with someting heavier like a 180 grain out of the 06 and a 225 grain in the .338 mag.Lighter bullets work, you just have to wait for the appropriate shot.

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Originally posted by giladad1:
I did'nt know Nosler made a 200 gn. Accubond. That sounds like what I need. Mark

Great bullet with a very high ballistic coefficient. I would try RL22 and maybe IMR4831. The IMR4831 is a little faster and might allow you to get enough powder in that short case to get velocity. I have had good luck with IMR4831, just never tried it in that caliber with that bullet.

Let us know how it turns out cause I need to try that bullet in a friend's 300WSM.

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Originally posted by remington33:
I use 150 gr; cor-locks on deer, elk, and antelope. We use 30-06 and 308. I might consider 165's or 180's but that all for me. It's about 90% where you hit em rather than how heavy/ fast a bullet is.
Way back when I was just starting to reload I ask a uncle that had 'got his elk' 17 years in a row, I followed his advice and have never been sorry. We're way above 50 kills probably closer to 100 with this load with darn few bullets ever recovered less than 5.

Hit the game where it should be hit, don't shoot when you shouldn't shoot, is what really counts.

The one Cor-lock did recover from a elk had taken out about 4 inches of neck bone on through the shoulder blade and had came to rest against the hide. It still weighted about 90 grains. I had knocked that elk down and when it got about halfway to it;s feet I shot the bullet I recovered.
I am not knocking any bullet or caliber here but think for the most part we are fed a buncha hype, in to many magazines. Remington had figured out decades ago what worked on game. It is now considered the cheap stuff, but works as good as any, at any price if you shoot em where ya should.

I agree on the Core-Lokt, my wife killed an elk last fall with one, My 300Win does not like them and i just can't get them to group, otherwise I would shoot them too

I know to some guys it doesn't matter but I want all the meat from my deer and elk I can get. We cut and wrap all our own so we get a chance to see what damage the bullets do. The Cor-locs seem to be as good as any I have dealt with an a heck of a lot better that some. My Dad shot some of the " off the shelf" Federals that as far as I could tell did as nice a job as the Remington's.
I have shot deer with another major bullet/ammo manufacturer's 180 grain bullet and was amazed at how poorly it preformed and the amount of unnecessary damage that was done.
If a bullet " blows up" and doesn't exit all that energy has been expended inside the animal and the bullet itself has undoubtedly exploded or came apart on a small or thin skinned animal that was hit through the rib cage. Your going to lose lots of meat that way.

I have found it surprising what different bullets will do to a deer even when hit behind the shoulder. A good bullet design will do great damage to the lung area and exit but not cause excessive bruising and bleeding behind both shoulders and the mess caused by some I have seen.

I bet in todays world that most if not all your premium bullets from most makers are very good bullets but you need to watch what their intended purpose is, or will do with the speed you are using them at, and what type of penetrating or explosive damage you want. Are you hunting thin skinned American game you want to eat or a trophy you want to plant right where he is, or Large maybe dangerous animals, or a hide you want mounted.
Lot's to consider.