Is there someone out there who has some first hand experience with some of the various X bullets.With the original X bullets that I have used in several rifles I found they would group very well in some rifles but the velocity was always a 100 to 200 fps slower than a conventional bullet of the same weight.The XLC bullets could supposedly be driven to higher velocity than the plain X bullet. I have not used any of the XLC's. Now the new Triple shock bullets are claiming reduced bore friction and higher velocities. I have used the 140 X in a 7mm mag but the velocity was well below what was attainable with other bullets. Has anyone tried the new 7mm 140 gr triple shock in a 7mm Wby or Rem? What velocity is possible compared to the original X ?

The product is still in the development stage. First one style and then another and now a third. There is or was a GS bullet with grooves and now a Barnes and also a "Groove" bullet company now. Maybe that's the best idea.

I am waiting for others to test them and they are and it's fun to read. I am all set with other bullets for now anyway but I like new stuff so I wish them well.

My 338-378wby averages 88fps more with the 225 XLC. Accuracy is ok but the North Fork Tech bullets are faster in my rifle and shoot well below MOA. I spent this past weekend shooting my first box of North Fork bullets and I am amazed at the results. Very little fouling compared to the Barnes X and higher velocity.

To be fair I have to add that the fouling was only a problem with the origianl "X" and not the "XLC".

Here you go:

http://www.groovebullets.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1031

I've loaded the X and Xlc in 22Hornet, 223rem, 222remmag, 243Win, 270Win, 30-06, 300Win & 300WSM and the Tripleshock in 30-06, 300Win & 300WSM. My experience has been the Tripleshock is much, much easier to get to shoot well than the X or Xlc. My advice would be to go right to the Tripleshock, and bypass the others.
Fred

The 160 grain North Fork cannot be beat with my 7mm STW. Prior to that the Barnes XLC's were tops. Good shooting.

I did not see the big jump in velocity with the XLC. They reason you do not get the velocity at the same weight is the bearing surface of the X i slonger than a standard bullet. Just look how long they are vs a lead core in the same wieght. That is why you can go down a "size" and get similar results. The grovved bullets have less bearing area so they can go faster. I perosnally think that is is easier for rifing to get a grip on the groved bullets. With Barnes I have found that they like speed and to be set off the lands like Barnes recommends. I personally like the light bullet weights 30/06 ande 308 150grain. 25/06 90 grain. 300 Win Mag 165 grain. The heaver bullet weight for the caliber have not shot as well as the lighter ones. Also the BT design is easier to load, and the bearing surface is smaller. The failsafe is a great alternative if your bullet caliber is available. I have had great luck in the 30 caliber.

Gook Luck

Hcliff

Thanks everybody for your input. Just about every question has been answered EXCEPT the one I asked. Can any one tell me if they have experienced any increase in velocity when switching from an original X to the new triple shock x bullet of the same weight. (preferably 140 gr 7mm but any same weight combiation would be helpful).