Just wondering what bullets that you guy know about for under 300 gr .458 dia. bullets

I have to ask why? But I do have the answer; use a round ball; they weigh 175 grains. The Army used to load those for gallery practice in the 1880s.

150gr Collar Buttons http://www.westernbullet.com/ly4gr6.html

250gr Monoflex http://www.hornady.com/store/4...458-250-GR-MONOFLEX/

I have a light weight contender carbine with 23 in barrel.

I am very used to down loading for it and many different calibers.

I guess I looking for something around 2000fps plus with out the recoil of normally loads.

Why does ay body try something different I have many different calibers and guns to do what I need.

Thought this might be fun.

I did not know about those Hornady 250s. Go for it.

I didn't know about them now I do. Lots of new things come to the market.

Offhand I can think of a few.

Barnes has a 250 gr TSX, CEB has a 250 gr hollow point and a 295 gr solid, Lehigh makes a 255 gr pointed solid as a match bullet for the 458 SOCOM and Hornady has a 250 gr "Monoflex" bullet. Probably more but those are bullets I researched for my 458 SOCOM.

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Originally posted by Gerard:
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/458270HV251.html

Gerard you make some great bullets but I find your web site a bit hard to determine what bullet I am looking for.

Thanks for the reply's gives me some things to think about has any body used muzzle loading sabots in there cartridge arms to reduce bullet weights.

I have a bunch of 45 cal sabots from a muzzle loader project I was playing with.

p dog,

I hear you and, as soon as the USA GSC site is done, it will be much easier. The structure is already easier than the old site. The GSC South Africa site is an evolution of 15 years and it has wandered a little. Sometimes adding a page is like herding cats.

Damn son. Go to the big bore forum. Michael458 can or has answered your question(s).

The laws of physics are not going to allow you to shoot a 250 gr bullet at 2000 FPS in a Contender and have you like it recoil wise.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I have a light weight contender carbine with 23 in barrel.

I am very used to down loading for it and many different calibers.

I guess I looking for something around 2000fps plus with out the recoil of normally loads.

Why does ay body try something different I have many different calibers and guns to do what I need.

Thought this might be fun.

p dog shooter
Put your bullets in a lathe and turn it down( the back part) to the specific weight you are in need of, it will not effect your over all length.You will have a bullet now to your own specifications.

I haven't seen the Hornady 250gr bullets. They may be interesting going in the opposite direction. I bet I can get over 3000 out of my lott with them. But back to what PD Shooter was asking for. I would look at cast bullets in the 250 -300 gr range and load them to 45-70 loads you are not going to get 2000fps with a 250-300gr bullet in a light weight rifle with out significant recoil. Hear is a link. I suggested the lead as they will be cheaper.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Bill

Cutting Edge Bullets....... 250 gr Socom............

Do not let its weight fool you as to what it is capable of.............

In July this year I took several zebra, wildebeast, hartebeast and assorted other critters with this bullet, most all were DRT, and only on occasion would I find the remaining bullet, most exited...........

Later in Zimbabwe, I purposely took a cow buffalo, behind the shoulder, lung shot, bullet made it all the way to the far side. On dry land, hippo in the brain at 17 yds, bullet hit with such impact that it squirted brains out both ears for 6 feet in both directions.........

458 B&M, 18 inch gun, 250 Socom at 2900 fps.................

I have numerous reports from the field of many many more plains game and other animals being taken with great success.....

Currently on big bores I am running pressures on 458 Lott and 458 Winchester, in the lott we can run this bullet to 3100 fps at 52000 PSI.............

I have not finished with the 458 Winchester yet, but at 2800 fps with 3 powders from 46000 PSI to 49000 PSI....

Also an excellent 45/70 bullet, very capable of doing big things.........

Michael