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does anyone have info about Lake City brass for reloading? I know someone near me who has about a 1000 unfired 30 06 brass he got from Lake City. He said Lake City bought bulk ammo and pulled it apart to sell the brass. Is this accurate and is the brass reliable?

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I have a bunch of LC brass that is once fired brass/ pick up range brass. It was oiginally match brass for 1000yr comp with military type rifles.
If the price is right go for it. if its pulled down it will still have live primers if it is once fired the primer will be spent.
load at least 10% below starting loads and work up mmil brass tend to run on the thick side of the tolerances
 
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load at least 10% below starting loads and work up mmil brass tend to run on the thick side of the tolerances

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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
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the guy said it was unfired and the primers were out of it.

he's asking:

$20 for 100 brass
$75 for 500, and
$150 for 1000

good deal?
 
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Thanks.

Final question: if reloading the rounds and keeping within typical loading velocities (no hot rounds) is there a typical number of rounds one brass should be able to be used for; e.g. 3-4?
 
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way too many things effect this.....headspace in your gun is a biggie.....the condition of anneal of the brass for another.....neck sizing compared to FL resizing....reloads may run from 1 to 10 or more....no one can make promises.....I'd roughly plan on five reloadings.....but....


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How long to use rifle brass is a common question. As said above, too many variables to even make a realistic guess.

In addition to what's been said, the size of YOUR chamber and YOUR FL or neck die, and how you set them up, have a major impact on how long the brass will last. So does annealing.

Some of my old GI -06 brass has been loaded maybe 10 or 12 times without failing and is still going strong. Before I learned how to load (size) right, it generally failed in 5-7 cycles.

All of my case failures have been in the body or neck when it splits, long ways. Most of the time, my cases have split while sizing, not shooting. Even if it splits in firing, such failures are, normally, not hazardous. Never had a head seperation, and don't expect to, but HEAD SEPERATIONS ARE HAZARDOUS!

The common admonition to toss the brass after 5 firings is to err on the safe side to prevent head seperations. It's not a bad rule to follow!
 
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LC is high quality*, but the 308 has less capacity and the .223 has more capacity.

I have 30-06 LC, but have not compared the capacity to commercial 30-06 brass.

*It is about as consistent as Federal or Win, and takes about as much case prep.
 
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Lake City is a government owned ammunition plant just north of Kansas City. It is operated on contract by, IIRC, Remington for the government. I do not recall who operated it immediately previous to that.

A great deal of ammo for our military was and is made there. The great bulk of it is NOT/was NOT match quality brass. That which is, was headstamped LC, year of manufacture, MATCH" .


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In context to your brass life question, I would suggest you pick'up a copy of the newest issue of "Handloader". Look at the article on 308,vast amounts of info and he tests cases to failure. This isn't a direct answer but, it does show how different cases can be.
 
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In context to your brass life question, I would suggest you pick'up a copy of the newest issue of "Handloader". Look at the article on 308,vast amounts of info and he tests cases to failure. This isn't a direct answer but, it does show how different cases can be.

Do you work for Wolf Publishing? You do mention Handloader Magazine a lot in 1 day.
 
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I wish !!! Just a darn good article, I've wanted to do the same thing the author did but have never had the time(or confidence). So I guess the article answered a lot of long standing questions of mine.
 
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