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Not stipulated, but since the question deals with the rifle and not the shooter that is how I'll respond. All info below is off a bench and bags. I am capable of 3" 5 shot groups with selected rifles(read-good triggers), standing. Better if I'm sitting or prone. All info at 100 yards...50 yards is not a valid litmus for a rifle IMO. All use handloads except the T/C Carbine and 10/22. Ruger 77/44 - 1.5" Ruger 77, .358 Win. - 1.5" or better, depending on load Ruger #1, .257/.22KH- .75" Model 94, .30-30 - 3"(50 yds- < 1") T/C Carbine .30-30 - 1" +/- a wee bit Ruger 10-22 .22LR - 1-2"(50 yds-10 shots in .5") J. Pire .405 Win - 6" for now. Loads under developement. 700ADL .22-250 - .7" | ||
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all off the bench, "normal" 3 shot average groups, not any smallest groups scoped win m70 classic 416rem .95" 100 yards savage 99 358 savage 1.75" 100 yards handririfle 223 rem, target barrel 1.25" 100 yards flaig custom 1903 257 roberts .365" at 100 yards custom mexican mauser, 376 steyr .75" at 100 yards custom mexican mauser 708, .4" at 100 custom 1903a3 358 win .625" at 100 scoped 1903a3 30-06 1.4" at 100 custom 1903 300 winmag .75" at 100 scoped sks 4.5" at 100 iron sights polytech m14 308 .9" 100 custom mex mauser 458 win 2.5" 100 custom enfield 500 jeffe 2" 100 custom mex mauser 358 2" 100 savage 99 358 3." 100 1981/39 tikka/fin barrel 2.5" 100 (and 6" high) jeffe | |||
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Collins, I will give you a list of guns, and their accuracy off my bench, with me pulling the trigger. I am not an "average" shooter(I shoot often, and I have had some shooting technique instruction), and most of my guns, at a minimum, have had trigger work, and I have tuned the loads for each rifle. I believe the average shooter takes the out of the box "deer" rifle to the range, shoots a few rounds to check zero, maybe a few more off hand practice shots, and then maybe a few shots during the season, at game. From the brass pile, setting by my tumbler, I shoot a lot more than that So I am not sure if these numbers are "average", but they are my averages. Howa 1500 300WSM, 165 gr TSX, ave. 5 shot group - .9" Tikka WH .25-06 Rem, 100 gr TSX, ave. 5 shot group - .75" Savage 16 .22-250 Rem.. 55 gr NBT, ave. 5 shot group - .75" AR-15 20" RRA Varminter barrel .223 Rem., 55 gr NBT, ave. 5 shot group - .6" AR-15 16" RRA chrome/moly barrel, .223 Rem, 55 gr. NBT, ave. 5 shot group - .9" Browning BAR, 308 Win., 150 gr Hornady SPBT, ave. 5 shot group - 1.25" Remington 760, 30-06 Sprg, 150 gr Hornady SPBT, ave. 5 shot group - 1" I hope this helps your data gathering. Squeeze | |||
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VS223-1.4" 10 shots @200yds. 700Rem. 6mmRem.-.4" 5 shots @100yds Model 70 06'- .75, 3 shots " 700 S/S 7mm08-.450" 5 shots " Son's Colt AR15 will put 5 shots into 2.5" @100yds. with 55gr Rem FMJs, but wait til we whip out the 69MKs when he gets his R/R "Entry Tatical" can I include Rimfires, OK, Cooper LVT-1.5" for 10 shots @100yds.(SK JAGD SP) Jay | |||
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groups from bench @ 100 yards...avg denotes average group size after best handload found or average group size with factory ammo...hope this helps! | |||
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Quote: Sorry, but they are average for me and my guns... | |||
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The term average is truly misleading here as previously stated.....I'm not posting my results because I've individually bedded and floated all my rifles and then carefully picked the bullets that shot the best in them. I've used 1 1/2" at 100 yards as a cutoff.....If I can't achieve that I trade it off and a few have been traded for that reason. I remember a fine M-70 in .300 H&H that went to someone else.......and then a Remington 721 in .300 H&H that shot 200 grain swift A-Frames into a 7/8" group.....that gun has earned a permanent spot in the cabinet. These are the exceptions and should not be considered for the calculation of average. Good luck on your project. | |||
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I'm not too particular. All of my 'light rifles', an FN '06, a Whitworth 308 and a Tweed 6.5, will shoot around 1.25" groups. I stop there as I have yet to shoot at anything over 250yds. My VS's 308 and 708 will shoot under an inch. I practice regularly with a bull bag. Most of the guys I know shoot a box a year, if that. I'd consider them average. They are happy with 2-3" groups. I'd say that would be your average. capt david | |||
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our local clubs in this area have a yearly fun shoot there is very few competition shooters there we shoot in a few different positions .off the bench about 80% can keep them in the 9 ring at 100 yrds | |||
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Sako 30-06, .8 with handloads 180 gr. 1.2 with factory 180's 3.5 with factory 150's M-98 .280 Ackley Imp (John Ricks) .4 with fireforming loads, 140's (go figure) .9 with hunting loads 140's Model 81 Woodsmaster .35 Rem 5" with 150 gr core loct, factory M-98 in 22-250 (Mad Jack Harrison) .6 with handloads 1 to 1.2" with factory VZ-24 8-mm 4" with milsurp ammo M-98 in 7mm Mauser 4" with factory ammo and irons Model 81 Woodsmaster .300 Savage 3" with factory 150 gr core loct M-98 .458 Win mag 2" with 350 gr handloads Interarms Mk10 .243 .9 with ANYTHING | |||
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Winchester 70 .270 1.25 inch Winchester 70 7mm Rem Mag 1.75 inch Ruger M77 7x57 2 inches Ruger M77 .257 Roberts 1.5 inch | |||
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