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| <CalleT> |
Hi, I came to think if this caliber exist: | ||
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| <Kimmo E> |
i have never heard of it but i think it would be a good choice. Plenty of bullets and brass, no problem with fire forming. A good choice for moose. | ||
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| one of us |
Kimmo? from Sweden? You must be a transplanted Finn. | |||
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| one of us |
I've heard of something similar, a .30/8mm Mauser. You nailed it, is an 8mm necked to .30. i don't have any data on it though... | |||
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| one of us |
i believe i found it in either an old hogden or hornady reloading manual. I believe the copywrite date would be around 1980 or so...sorry to say, i don't have it on me, as that sort of this is generally frowned upon by college administartions... | |||
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| <Mats> |
quote: Here in Ume� we call them "boat refugees"... I think you'll get that one! -- Mats | ||
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| <Mats> |
Totally unrelated to anything, but: CalleT is a very good friend of mine, treat him nice!  -- Mats | ||
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| <CalleT> |
Thank YOU MATS  CalleT | ||
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| <Paladin> |
...How strange: I'm sure I've seen reference long ago to a 7.62x57mm cartridge, but despite checking nearly a dozen references, cannot now find a citation for it. I do think the German gunsmiths may have done such a thing, but I'm not sure a compendium of their proprietary or "wildcat" cartridges yet exists. When "wildcatting" .30-caliber cartridges was a big fad in the U.S. during the period 1947-73 or so, literally hundreds of case and dimensional variations were attempted, most being based on the .30-06 case or one of the belted magnums. It came down to how much powder could be crunched into a case, usually behind a 150-grain bullet, the goal being to exceed 3,000 feet per second by as much as possible --unless one of the belted magnum cases was used, then the goal seemed to be to exceed 3,200 feet per second or more. Use of the .30-06 case was based on the availability of the brass and its relatively large capacity; the selection of the .30-caliber seemed to arise from the large number of surplus military barrels which could be reworked. The length of a cartridge was defined by what barely would feed up through the magazine wells in the surplus military actions (mainly Springfield and Mauser) preferred for making custom rifles. I'm sure the .30-caliber/8x57mm wildcat exists, but for the moment the closest comparison I can find would be the WW II Japanese 7.7x58mm Arisaka --and that's not very close. Good Luck, | ||
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| <MC> |
The 30x57 does truley exsist, I have one. I built my first one back in 78-79 on a 93 mauser. I wanted to use the shorter case for the smaller mausers like the 93 and 96 and approach the 06 or 308 in preformance. I started the loading process by using 8x57 minimum loads, with the same bullet weight, and working up from there. MC | ||
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| one of us |
that caliber has been around for several decades..Used to be a lot of rebores from 7x57 with shot out bores, that was its only justification. The caliber makes little since with the advent of the 308 and 30-06 from a rebarreling standpoint.... ------------------ | |||
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| <CalleT> |
Thanks for all replies! Why I came to think of this question was that I was sitting and reloaded some 8x57 and since the number of bullets aren't that many as is with the .30 caliber I thought that a wildcat in 7,62x57 would probably be a very nice moose round. Knowing when saying this that I probably start one of those many debates on which caliber that is the best for a given purpose. At least here in Sweden with moose hunt starting tomorrow (monday morning) many 8mm's will bag some moose meat. I have not yet met any disappointed owner of 8mm's yet but they may complain of that lack of variety of bullets for their caliber. Thank You MC for your response maybe You can e-mail me and tell me more?  Good luck all moose hunter out there "Skit Jakt p� ER"  Good shooting | ||
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| <Kimmo E> |
No i aint a finn and my parent arent either. I tru swedish from 1630(Liege Belgium)but the name is finnish. | ||
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| <Kari> |
Kimmo Be proud of that name! "Boat refugees" Ha ha! | ||
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| one of us |
I knew a finn once with that name "Kimmo Sabe", ran around with a dumb indian riding a paint horse.... ------------------ | |||
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| <Mandrake> |
Sweden, Finnland, Norway... The weather might be cool. I'd like to spend some time there. I like my home land, but I must say, it is always too warm down here! Best regards, and "at� mais, colegas!" | ||
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| <William E. Tibbe> |
CalleT: The .30-57 is a nothing - nowhere, non recognized cartridge. The nomenclature, appropriately interpreted actually means in American a .30 caliber bullet using 57 grains of black powder. The presumption that it is a .30 caliber ( British measurement system ) 57 millimeters long ( metric measurement ) is an abortion. Possibly some single gunsmith somewhere made one or a few of these or more than one individual may have made up a rifle now and then but it isn't nationally nor internationally recognized an a legitimate cartridge either as a wildcat or a propretary or an obsolete cartridge. Kendall | ||
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