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LOAD DATA FOR NON-FACTORY CARTRIDGES
20 April 2002, 02:36
<HOPPER>LOAD DATA FOR NON-FACTORY CARTRIDGES
I am thinking about having a rifle re-barreled to a non-standard caliber but I am wondering where to get proper information on how to re-work cases and safe load data. I assume there are some books on the subject but was hoping for some leads on them. The main reloading manuals do not offer a lot of information in these areas. Thanks in advance gentlemen!
20 April 2002, 03:57
<eldeguello>You will need to know the powder-space volume of your non-standard case. Then there are tools (ie, Powley computer) or software programs (ie., Quickload), which will allow you to calculate safe starting loads.
20 April 2002, 04:35
DB BillHopper......a lot depends on what non-standard cartridge you are looking at as some are very poplular with a ton of info available. There is a lot in print about wildcat cartridges...how to form them..how to load for them, etc.
Give us some idea about what you are considering and you can probably get a lot of specific advice.
20 April 2002, 05:01
<HOPPER>I am thinkihg of a 6.5/06 on a Rem. 700.
20 April 2002, 05:29
Pecos41Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders by P.O. Ackley has loading data for just about everything that's made a bang...including the 6.5/06...which is a good cartridge by the way. You'll like it.
I don't recommend it but .270 data would be close.
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20 April 2002, 05:35
SaeedHopper,
Welcome to the forum.
Have a look at our Reloading pages, we have some data for this one, as well as many other wildcats.
Any questions about our data, please feel free to ask.
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saeed@ emirates.net.ae
www.accuratereloading.com
20 April 2002, 05:48
<HOPPER>Tanks again gentlemen!
20 April 2002, 05:50
<HOPPER>That is Thanks with an "h". Sorry
20 April 2002, 07:51
ricciardelliLoading data for 6.5-06 can be found at
http://stevespages.com/page8c.htm
20 April 2002, 08:44
Allen GloreJust go with a 6.5 Brenneke and buy factory ammo. Virtually the same as the 6.5x06.
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AlleninAlaska
20 April 2002, 11:12
<HOPPER>Allen, Tell me a little more about the Brenneke.Is that on an "06" case or something else? And who makes or sells the factory rounds? This will be new territory for me as I have been using factory standard calibers.
20 April 2002, 12:00
Paul HAs I recall the Nosler manual has data for the 6.5-06, so that would be a good place to start. It also has similar capacity to the 6.5 rem mag, so you could look at that data for a reference.
PO Ackley's load data manuals (Two Volume) are good "historical" data, but they're are grossly out of date!
Moving into a "wildcat" load means exactly that. You're on your own more or less.
If you're going to do load development you'll need a chronograph, and eventually some load development software. But once you get into the process it's like the difference between playing by ear, and reading music.
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.223 Ackley Improved Wildcat Forum:
http://www.hotboards.com/plus/plus.mirage?who=223ackleyimproved
21 April 2002, 10:43
Allen GloreThe 6.5 Brenneke became a factory cartridge in Europe back in the late 80's or early 90's. It is actually the 6.5X270 but you could make it from 30-06, 25-06, 280 Rem or 270 Winchester brass. Also you can shoot 6.5X06 in the 6.5 Brenneke where as you cannot shoot 6.5 Brenneke in the 6.5X06. RWS or Norma makes factory ammo for this I believe. It is about midway between the 6.5X55 and the 264 Win Mag.in velocities with corresponding bullets. I would make one off either a Ruger or Win action with the claw extractors so that I could later just rechamber and with a little bit of bolt face work, have a 264 Win Mag if I decided that this was not enough.
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AlleninAlaska
21 April 2002, 11:26
<dcjs>hi allen,
the cartrige currently manufactured by RWS is the 6,5x65 RWS, which has a slightly bigger base diameter so that other chambers can be reamed out when rechambering. furthermore the case is longer than the 06 and the shoulder is further forward.
thus, the 6,5x65 can not be chambered in a 6,5-06.
mfg
david
21 April 2002, 11:36
larrysSierra and Nosler both have data for it.
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Larry
21 April 2002, 13:18
Allen Gloredcjs, you talking the 6.5X64 (6.5 Brenneke) or 6.5X65 RWS, two different cartridges.
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AlleninAlaska
22 April 2002, 02:14
<Dan in Wa>Are you the same Allen in Ak that use to post at shooters.com? Enjoyed your posts, that's how I got my name.
22 April 2002, 03:33
carcano91quote:
Originally posted by Allen Glore:
dcjs, you talking the 6.5X64 (6.5 Brenneke) or 6.5X65 RWS, two different cartridges.
The 6,5 x 64 Brenneke was made by MEN upon a standardization by Hannes Kepplinger. Since they have virtually given up their civilian ammo line, I don't recall offhand whether and how ammo is available now. I suggest giving Kepplinger a call.
Carcano
22 April 2002, 05:36
<HOPPER>I guess I'll have to ante up and buy some of the more current manuals. My latest is Nosler #3 and low and behold, it does have 6.5/06 info in it.