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358 Bullet Choices for Whitetails
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Okay, I'm getting into the 358 Win.

What would everyone recommend for bullets. Also looking for powder recommendations.

Thanks in advance.

Ken
 
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Hornday's 200 grn spitzer and IMR 4895


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358 Bullet Choices for Whitetails

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Hornday's 200 grn spitzer and IMR 4895


yep.....AA-2520 would be a good powder as well.


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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Hornday's 200 grn spitzer ...
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I've found this to be a "tough" Bullet and have had the best on-game performance when it enters a shoulder to begin the Expansion. The 200gr Hornady RN is also a fine Bullet. Both are Accurate in the rifles I've seen them used in.

If you prefer Lung shots, then the 180gr Speer FP Hot-Cor would actually work better for you.

And the H4895 would be my choice for the 358Win, but there are a good number of Powders that work well in them.
 
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Ken in VA: My hunting load for whitetails with my BLR:

180 grains Speer FP 47.0 grains IMR 3031

For recreational shooting (ie, light recoil):

200 grain Hornady RN 26.5 grains IMR's SR4759

For an interesting and thorough discussion of 35 caliber bullet performance, see the following:

http://www.suitorsgarage.com/gunstuff/35remington/factoryloadpart1.html

http://www.suitorsgarage.com/gunstuff/35remington/35rempart2.html


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Hornady 250 gr RN with whatever powder you have on hand... 4895, AA 2520, etc.


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I like the Speer 220g flatpoint. It really puts the whump on a whitetail with a good short blood trail if deer runs at all. I use Win 748 for powder most of the time. Plateau Hunter
 
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i have a supply of the now discontinued 150gr psp remington bullets. i load them over 62gr of BLc-2 for my 350 rem mag
 
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I am still using 250 gr. Winchester Silvertips from the end of the 1960's. They are NOT strong bullets for their weight, so expand quite readily on whitetail (or Columbia Blacktail). Any of the powders Terry mentions a couple of posts above works quite nicely with them. In fact, all the medium burn-rate powders do.

They are not available from Winchester anymore, but once in a rare while one runs onto them at a gun show. If you do find some at a reasonable price, you should buy them. They're a really good deer bullet.
 
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Ken in VA,

These years I load the 180 gr Speer flat point in the .358 W. with RL10. It gives excellent velocity, accuracy, expansion and penetration on deer.

Years before that I loaded 3031 behind the 200 gr Silvertip Tip also for good results. I have been loading the .358 Win. since 1966.


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