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Redding Trim Dies
09 August 2011, 19:29
AbobRedding Trim Dies
I mainly neck size only using Lee dies. Can Redding trim dies be used to bump the shoulder back? Trying to avoid buying body dies?
Jim
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10 August 2011, 01:06
RayGunterI had the same desire. To bump the shoulder back every 5 reloading or so. I'm not sure that a trim die would be an exact fit to bump the shoulder.
I bought a Redding body die. From Midway
Redding Body
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10 August 2011, 01:23
AbobRedding does not list a body die for my 300 H&H
Jim
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10 August 2011, 08:47
SR4759The only Redding trim die that I have is a 40-65 and it is the same dimension in the neck as a FL die.
10 August 2011, 22:45
AbobThanks
Jim
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11 August 2011, 05:47
SR4759ABOB,
I forgot to tell you that Redding advertises their trim dies as having an over size neck.
I would recommend calling the factory and ask them how they are manufactured in each caliber.
I do know that RCBS trim dies are larger than a FL die in the neck by about .007 to .010. They can also tell you what they actually produce per caliber.
11 August 2011, 06:23
Alberta CanuckCouldn't you just buy a used FL sizing die at a gunshow or a shop that handles used loading equipment?
Then you could grind the top of the die off back to wherever you want it to size to. Shouldn't cost you more than $10 that way, quite possibly as little as $5.
11 August 2011, 07:33
AbobAC, I have a set of FL dies that I thought about pulling the expander off,
Also, I have a few loaded rounds that I thought I would like to bump, don't think it would be anymore dangerous than pulling bullets from loaded rounds which I do with a RCBS puller & my Rock Chucker press (I don't use the hammer looking device)
SR, I'm waiting on an email answer from Redding
Jim
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11 August 2011, 09:08
Alberta CanuckNo sweat, Jim. Was just trrying to suggest a cheap and easy alternative that I know from personal experience works well.
By grinding the part above the shoulder off, you end up with a short, body die. It will definitely bump shoulders back, and as your resulting die will be threaded 7/8x14 for pretty much its whole length, you can adjust it to wherever you might want a shouder to be.
Hope Redding has what you are after.
P.S.: I don't think I would try bumping the shoulders back on loaded ammo with a FL sizing die. The neck portion of the die is designed to compress the brass case neck to a smaller diameter than a loaded round has with a bullet in place. That's how it gives you enough tension to hold the bullet where you want it when you load the ammo. You could easily end up with a loaded round stuck in the die...pinched between the bullet on the inside, and the die neck on the outside.
11 August 2011, 16:58
Abobtotally agree, if the trim die does work, I'll be pulling bullets & FL sizing
like the idea of grinding some old dies
Jim
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12 August 2011, 04:07
Rae59I must be totally missing something here.
Do the trim dies engage the entire case?
With my loads and cases it's not just the shoulder that needs to be bumped back a tad but the entire body. The H&H doesn't have much of shoulder. I think A.C.'s suggestion is the best. But instead of continuously neck sizing, I would partial-length resize every so often instead.
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12 August 2011, 06:37
SR4759quote:
Originally posted by Rae59:
I must be totally missing something here.
Do the trim dies engage the entire case?
With my loads and cases it's not just the shoulder that needs to be bumped back a tad but the entire body. The H&H doesn't have much of shoulder. I think A.C.'s suggestion is the best. But instead of continuously neck sizing, I would partial-length resize every so often instead.
Trim dies are pretty much like a FL sizer except the neck is left over size .008 to .010.
12 August 2011, 08:23
Rae59Understand now.
Thought that they only partially touched.
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