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09 August 2011, 19:29
Abob
Redding Trim Dies
I mainly neck size only using Lee dies. Can Redding trim dies be used to bump the shoulder back? Trying to avoid buying body dies?


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10 August 2011, 01:06
RayGunter
I had the same desire. To bump the shoulder back every 5 reloading or so. I'm not sure that a trim die would be an exact fit to bump the shoulder.

I bought a Redding body die. From Midway
Redding Body


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10 August 2011, 01:23
Abob
Redding does not list a body die for my 300 H&H


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10 August 2011, 08:47
SR4759
The only Redding trim die that I have is a 40-65 and it is the same dimension in the neck as a FL die.
10 August 2011, 22:45
Abob
Thanks


Jim

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11 August 2011, 05:47
SR4759
ABOB,
I forgot to tell you that Redding advertises their trim dies as having an over size neck.
I would recommend calling the factory and ask them how they are manufactured in each caliber.

I do know that RCBS trim dies are larger than a FL die in the neck by about .007 to .010. They can also tell you what they actually produce per caliber.
11 August 2011, 06:23
Alberta Canuck
Couldn't you just buy a used FL sizing die at a gunshow or a shop that handles used loading equipment?

Then you could grind the top of the die off back to wherever you want it to size to. Shouldn't cost you more than $10 that way, quite possibly as little as $5.
11 August 2011, 07:33
Abob
AC, I have a set of FL dies that I thought about pulling the expander off,

Also, I have a few loaded rounds that I thought I would like to bump, don't think it would be anymore dangerous than pulling bullets from loaded rounds which I do with a RCBS puller & my Rock Chucker press (I don't use the hammer looking device)

SR, I'm waiting on an email answer from Redding


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11 August 2011, 09:08
Alberta Canuck
No sweat, Jim. Was just trrying to suggest a cheap and easy alternative that I know from personal experience works well.

By grinding the part above the shoulder off, you end up with a short, body die. It will definitely bump shoulders back, and as your resulting die will be threaded 7/8x14 for pretty much its whole length, you can adjust it to wherever you might want a shouder to be.

Hope Redding has what you are after.


P.S.: I don't think I would try bumping the shoulders back on loaded ammo with a FL sizing die. The neck portion of the die is designed to compress the brass case neck to a smaller diameter than a loaded round has with a bullet in place. That's how it gives you enough tension to hold the bullet where you want it when you load the ammo. You could easily end up with a loaded round stuck in the die...pinched between the bullet on the inside, and the die neck on the outside.
11 August 2011, 16:58
Abob
totally agree, if the trim die does work, I'll be pulling bullets & FL sizing

like the idea of grinding some old dies


Jim

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12 August 2011, 04:07
Rae59
I must be totally missing something here.
Do the trim dies engage the entire case?

With my loads and cases it's not just the shoulder that needs to be bumped back a tad but the entire body. The H&H doesn't have much of shoulder. I think A.C.'s suggestion is the best. But instead of continuously neck sizing, I would partial-length resize every so often instead.


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12 August 2011, 06:37
SR4759
quote:
Originally posted by Rae59:
I must be totally missing something here.
Do the trim dies engage the entire case?

With my loads and cases it's not just the shoulder that needs to be bumped back a tad but the entire body. The H&H doesn't have much of shoulder. I think A.C.'s suggestion is the best. But instead of continuously neck sizing, I would partial-length resize every so often instead.


Trim dies are pretty much like a FL sizer except the neck is left over size .008 to .010.
12 August 2011, 08:23
Rae59
Understand now.
Thought that they only partially touched.


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