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Does anyone now how to make Steve's burn rate chart into colums instead of rows? I pasted it in microsoft excel. Isnt there away to switch rows into colums? Do it without typeing the whole thing over into top to bottom colums. I want to print it out but colums would be easyer to read than the way its made in rows http://stevespages.com/powderrates.html | ||
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Search in the help for "rows to columns" The procedure is given. Unfortunately it will only get you close ... the nubers will alternate in the column with the powder name. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Yea I tryed that. Oh well . Just have to re type the hole thing | |||
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GSP7, I have the spreadsheet fixed by moving columns around. Send me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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Ok,,,How did you do it? | |||
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Can anyone tell me how the loads listed on Steve's pages were assembled?What type of pressure testing was used?His suggestions on some max loads are quite higher than my loading manuals suggest.I have,however,tried some of the load suggestions without any problems.Just curious. Thanks, Jim | |||
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In many cases Steve's data seems high. If you dig deep and check other manuals you will find his max data published somewhere. | |||
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With all the real data in print or online from the bullet/powder people, I would not touch Steve's data with the proverbial 10 ft pole (unless it agrees with industry data, and then it it really "his" data?). He admits to using Quickload and other programs, then says how "off" they are. He also recycles published data (fine, but it should be referenced), and many loads are certainly "keyboard generated" only. Just read some of his "stories" under cartridges he admits to loading...hard for me to tell fact from fiction. (His .17 caliber cartridge experiences are BS, and if at all true certainly taint his comments on other cartridges). He did spend lots of time on his website, I gotta admit. As a wildcat shooter, I do some extrapolating myself, on powders and bullet combos, especially when data is sparse. But I won't publish it as if it should be "tested/safe " data for others to use. My opinion: stick to the industry data; there is often enough variances in them to cause some ???, but it's the best we have. | |||
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Stolen from Steves pages http://stevespages.com/page8.htm "The data contained herein is NOT bounded by SAAMI limitations! Because of this fact, be ABSOLUTELY sure you understand numbers one, two and three above!! The highlighted powder in the selection area is NOT sacred, truth, fact nor absolute. It is the powder and primer combination I chose as best when I was reloading that caliber, with that bullet. It is based on three simple facts: 1) A "gut feeling"; 2) Almost 50 years of experience; 3) They worked just fine in the firearm I was testing" He makes no promises as to the nature or safty of the data other then he shot the loads and is still here to tell you about it. Then again the major manuals of the past did basicly the same........... ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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Hey Steve, Care to comment on this? Maybe you should have consulted Mulerider before you went and published all this "dangerous" data. Seems to me that Mulerider and others have forgotten the number 1 basic rule of reloading. That is to start low and work up, looking for signs of pressure along the way. Take a look at the powder manufactures data and the bullet manuals and you will find some huge differences. Because Steve put this data all together for us in a nice neat little package you consider his data false or dangerous. Before you go off on Steve maybe you should check out as many manuals and powder manufactures data as you can find. You WILL find his data accurate. | |||
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Stevie4102: You have no idea as to my reloading practice, and for you to state what I have "forgotten" shows how clueless you are. Feel free to use Steve's data, but based on your comments, all he should have printed was "starting" loads, cause good reloaders ALWAYS start there... I'll stick to deciphering the more comprehensive industry data (pressure, velocity, action used, those sort of things...); it can be confusing enough. I would hope most reloaders using his data would verify the info thru an industry source; and then learn to skip that first step... | |||
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This is one of the reasons I left this cesspool of "experts"! I have nearly 50 years of reloading experience. I have kept perfect records. The data presented on my pages is correct, just as the warning states. My opinion on the 17 caliber cartridges stems from personal experience, and my feelings are, they still suck little dead donkey dicks. As for pressure testing and velocity measurements, they ARE NOT listed, because they totally depend on the lot number and manufacturer of the cases, primers, powders and bullets, as well as the make and model of the firearm, as well as the abilities of the people who chamber the receiver and rifled the barrel, and the atmospheric conditions. Like one poster mentioned, and is common knowledge among experienced reloaders, "Start low and work up...". If you are too damn lazy to do this, then whatever happens is your problem!  | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mulerider: Stevie4102: You have no idea as to my reloading practice, and for you to state what I have "forgotten" shows how clueless you are. QUOTE] Like I said, "Start low and work up". If you are obsessed with the "Max" end of load data then good luck to you. Again, If you do some digging and spend a little cash on a few more manuals, you will find that his data is accurate. | |||
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Steve welcome back! While your mileage my vary, the truth is always the truth.  Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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 Now back to you guys that  to poke holes in what Steve has done on his site for his own reasons, the origanal quetion by GSP7 was: "How can he change the format in Excel to go from rows to columns?"The only one that was able to help him was mstarling. Then Jim asked the question about how Steve came to recipes for reloading then off it went completely off the origanal post into a fu***ng pissing match. Then Steve has to come back here to defend himself from you "experts" again. I relly miss Steve and others posting here because they got sick and tired of this type of shit! Some of you  just need to keep your fingers away from the keyboard!Have a nice day! (edited with help from the administration  )______________________ Smedley  ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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I know a helluva lot more about reloading than I know about computers. So, while I can't turn lines into columns nor water into wine, I've found Steve's pages to be a valuable asset. His "pungent" sense of humor is pretty good also. | |||
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I've had some of my carefully documented 'in my rifle' loads torn apart as well, some indicating I should be executed for recommending some loads, which were always done with the above caveat. You just can't let these type of experts get under your skin. Just walk away and come back later, since you can't kick someone's ass on the internet. Too bad though, as some are deserving. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Amen and thanks for lightening this post up a little. Steve Ricciardelli: Thanks for the work you have done . Wonderful site with tons of good information. | |||
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Steve Ricciardelli, Thanks for all the time and effort you put into your site Steve, I for one appreciate all your efforts. It is a wealth of information. bigbull | |||
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Ooops double post! | |||
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I'm not sure about M$ excel, but OpenOffice Calc (an excellent, free office SW suite, btw, which will read/write M$ office file formats) can work as follows: From your web browser, copy the entire contents of the table. In OO calc, right mouse button, pull down to "paste special". A window with choices pops up. One is "Transpose". select that, hit ok. done! There is also a "paste special" option under the edit menu in calc and excel. The "paste special" in excel probably has a similar option. BTW, I too appreciate Steve's work on his website! Andy Pray, Vote, Shoot, Reload. | |||
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Hi Steve, Good to hear/see you. I use stuff off of your site very often. I'm grateful for the hard work you have done.  | |||
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#86 Enforcer = #90 AA#9 #188 H-450 = #192 W-785 #169 H-414 = #173 W-760 #82 HS-7 = #85 W-571 #65 True Blue = #70 HS-6 = #71 W-540 #24 Zip = #30 W-231 = #41 HP-38 I just read Steve's pages on the 17 caliber cartridges. My gut feel is that Steve is telling the truth about his short tempered 17 cal experiences. It was perceived as BS is in the mind of the reader who had different experiences. Steve reveals something of his emotions as he tells his anecdotes. It's more interesting to read gun info through the eyes of a grumpy opinionated writer. His character has color. | |||
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I have always wanted to talk like that, but I was always afraid of getting divorced, fired arrested, detention, or spanked. I guess I have alpha male envy. | |||
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