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Does anybody have a list of the length of varies .224 bullets ? gunsmile
 
Posts: 10 | Location: Broken Arrow ,Okla | Registered: 31 December 2005Reply With Quote
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Gee, do you want just the most common 137 bullets, or do you want them all?
 
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Posts: 479 | Location: MINOT, NORTH DAKOTA | Registered: 24 January 2005Reply With Quote
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well , Let Restate, by weight anh length, I looked on your site but only found length to twist rate. I'm looking for weigth to length...
 
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24kilo,
In every reloading manual I have come across I have not found a chart for weight to length. I would think that this would be difficult to do since all of the variables that go into bullet construction.
We know that the diameter is for the most part going to stay constant. Depending on the rest of the variables, the only way the bullet can change is in length. A 55grn solid is going to be different in length than a 55grn hollowpoint. I am sure that a boattail is going to have an effect on bering length also.
To set up a chart would be difficult because each of the manufacturers are only held to diameter so how the rest of the construction is up to them and they each have thier own way of putting thier little pill together.
I know this doen't help you to much and I am not sure if you can get help with this question. Steve has a good point, there is a LOT of .224 bullets on the market, where do you start.

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24 kilo

If you could give us a little more info, such as, exactly why are you asking the question, it may help some of us help you. Do you have some specific project in mind? Are you looking for a bullet to match up with a certain barrel twist or a particular case? On the other hand, if you're looking for a list or a chart "just because" you probably won't find it anywhere. If Steve doesn't have it, it doesn't exist.

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Correct, There's no chart, that's why I'm asking. I have a long leade and want to look at length of the bullets.
 
Posts: 10 | Location: Broken Arrow ,Okla | Registered: 31 December 2005Reply With Quote
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Hey 24kilo, The "average" length for a whole bunch of Bullets is listed in the Ballistics Software Program - "Load From A Disk". But, it does not provide a length from the Tip to the point on the Ogive that would make contact with the Lead.

And I'd expect a lot of the Software Programs have that feature.
 
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24kilo,
In every reloading manual I have come across I have not found a chart for weight to length. I would think that this would be difficult to do since all of the variables that go into bullet construction.
We know that the diameter is for the most part going to stay constant. Depending on the rest of the variables, the only way the bullet can change is in length. A 55grn solid is going to be different in length than a 55grn hollowpoint. I am sure that a boattail is going to have an effect on bering length also.
To set up a chart would be difficult because each of the manufacturers are only held to diameter so how the rest of the construction is up to them and they each have thier own way of putting thier little pill together.
I know this doen't help you to much and I am not sure if you can get help with this question. Steve has a good point, there is a LOT of .224 bullets on the market, where do you start.Smedley


Even bullets in boxes with identical labelling are not always exactly the same length. It can often vary slightly from one lot to the next, and sometimes manufacturers make dimensional changes, such as different ogive contours, etc., while leaving weight the same.....


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Sounds like the same problem I had recently, how to get the bullet closer to the lands. Had been shooting Speer 50 gr TNTs in my 223. Throat has worn enough that I can't seat them close enough to lands and still have enough bullet in the neck to hold it. (Too many P-dogs?) So I looked at bullet 'profiles' and tried Hornady's 50 gr SX. I can get the bullet to the lands and still have plenty of bullet in the neck to grip it. Accuracy is still decent so I can hold off on a new barrel for a couple more P-dog trips. I suppose I could even try the 55 gr SX for more length if I needed.

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Ok,On my gun From base to lands I have 2.135,Here's the problem, Say With a 55gr Win FMJBT( which I have 150-200) At that distance it gives me a 2.400 col. Now -.020 for the leade the bullet won't seat due the BT , Hell it won't seat at -.100. So instead of going to my local reload shop and saying "Hey can I open up 20-30 boxes of your varies brands and weights to get some lengths from base to ogive" I'm looking for a chart, list or software. I really don't understand the Bullet makers, Reloading guys want specs and they want all info they can get,Why don't they supply the info? I've looked on just about all the Bullet makers sites, They give amost all onfo except OAL or base to Ogive. With all the heavy rounds out to day and the longer leade seems they would update there info to a more detailed assessment. Or how about if a Bullet Manufacturer made a sample pack, Like they do for pellets (rws, Beeman and some others) in pelletguns. I.E 20ea of 55gr in there different styles say 5 styles. I'd be willing to pay dbl price for a pack. Sure would save having worthless bullets laying around....
 
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Hey 24kilo, Have you tried just Seating deeper?

You really don't have to be right next to the Lands to get good to excellent accuracy.

The reason I mention this is because I've had some rifles that shoot just as good or better a good ways from the Lands. A classic example is one of my rifles shoots a particular bullet with excellent accuracy Seated 0.264" away form the Lands. Yes, over 1/4" away.
 
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No I haven't, Most manuals say .015-.030 off the lands, as a matter of fact Nosler recomends this in there FAQ. So I'd like to go that way....
 
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Try a 55 Grain Hornady V-Max, its a good bullet, its long cos its 55 gr and it has a flat base so you wont run into boat tail related seating problems. If you want the exact length for that bullet, let me know and ill go and find one to measure.

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Posts: 63 | Location: Yorkshire, England | Registered: 24 January 2005Reply With Quote
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24kilo

OK, now we're getting somewhere. Knowing what you're after, here is a suggestion. The bigger bullet makers (Sierra, Hornady, Nosler,etc) all have technical staff who are also shooters. I would get on the phone tomorrow and call them. Start with Sierra. Their guys are the best IMHO. Tell them what you're after and they can put you in touch with the technician who can best help you. I would ask for Paul, Duane, or Rich to start. If they can't help they will know who can. And don't be afraid to ask them to send you a sample pack of the 4 or 5 bullets they might recommend. They have done that for me in the past. Just don't ask for a box of each. Wink Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

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I can give you the bullet lengths on the ones I own. They are:

Nosler 50gr. Bal.Tip .783"
Norma 50gr. SPSP .625"
Rem. 52gr. HPBR .692"
Speer 52gr. HP .698"
Win. 52gr. HPBT .726"
Sierra 52gr. HPBT .721"
Hart 52gr. HP .706"
Horn. 52gr. BTHP .720"
Berger 52g. HP .706"
McCracken 52 HPBT .735"
McCracken 53 HPBT .726"
Sierra 53gr. HP .7"
Speer 55gr. SP .684"
Nosler 55gr. Bal.Tip .806"

Hope this helps you a bit. Best wishes.

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Thanks thats what I'm looking for!!! rotflmo
 
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