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I apologize for being a mooch, but I was hoping that someone with Quick Load could look up some starting, and do not exceed loads for the 9.3x70mm Expert Magnum. I will be mainly loading 286-grain Nosler Partitions, and 250-grain Nosler Accubond bullets. If they list the 300-grain Swift A-Frame, well that would be icing on the cake. I am willing to pay for a print out. Thank you in advance, Charlie | ||
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Help my friend, Yours truly, Emma Thompson | |||
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I can run them in the morning. Supposed to snow anyway. Do you have powder preferences? As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I will use any powder that works. I have Norma, Vihtavuori, IMR, Western, Hodgdon, WW, and so on. Am up for buying Reloder if necessary. | |||
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First verify this is the cartridge you are talking about. Then choose a couple powders and I'll run detailed runs. This just list max velocity at a 63,000 psi or 105% fill Cartridge : 9.3 x 70 Mag. (DWM569) Bullet : .366, 250, Nosler AccuBond 59756 Useable Case Capaci: 88.238 grain H2O = 5.729 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.504 inch = 89.00 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 90 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- ReloadSwiss RS 60 99.9 85.2 5.52 2984 100.0 63000 10190 1.109 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 98.9 84.4 5.47 2963 100.0 63000 10130 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 98.9 84.4 5.47 2963 100.0 63000 10130 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.0 91.0 5.90 2952 99.2 60801 11006 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 62 102.4 87.3 5.66 2935 100.0 63000 10230 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 100.3 86.9 5.63 2928 99.6 63000 10393 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 103.6 87.1 5.64 2927 99.6 63000 10378 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 97.9 84.2 5.46 2921 99.2 63000 10371 1.128 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 97.9 84.2 5.46 2921 99.2 63000 10371 1.128 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 103.2 83.0 5.38 2909 100.0 63000 9961 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.2 83.1 5.38 2909 100.0 63000 9958 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 100.2 83.3 5.40 2908 100.0 63000 10093 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 105.0 84.9 5.50 2907 100.0 60871 9627 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 102.5 83.4 5.40 2906 100.0 63000 9928 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 91.8 5.95 2905 99.7 53456 11251 1.194 Norma 204 102.5 86.1 5.58 2896 97.7 63000 10298 1.123 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 96.4 81.0 5.25 2888 100.0 63000 9576 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Big Game 93.3 80.9 5.24 2881 100.0 63000 9473 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon CFE223 88.1 79.8 5.17 2880 100.0 63000 9449 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 103.3 85.3 5.53 2877 99.0 63000 9982 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 93.0 75.6 4.90 2876 100.0 63000 9486 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 85.4 5.53 2873 97.5 61346 10235 1.136 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 105.0 85.4 5.53 2873 97.5 61346 10235 1.136 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 93.8 76.3 4.94 2868 100.0 63000 9455 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 93.8 76.3 4.94 2868 100.0 63000 9455 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 93.8 76.3 4.94 2868 100.0 63000 9455 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 94.2 76.7 4.97 2865 100.0 63000 9378 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 102.5 82.5 5.35 2861 99.2 63000 9827 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 95.1 79.0 5.12 2861 99.9 63000 9592 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 88.6 78.7 5.10 2858 100.0 63000 9249 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 103.3 83.6 5.41 2857 98.7 63000 9750 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 95.6 78.6 5.09 2856 100.0 63000 9232 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 95.6 78.6 5.09 2856 100.0 63000 9232 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 105.0 89.1 5.78 2854 97.8 52841 11060 1.204 ReloadSwiss RS 52 94.1 79.1 5.12 2853 100.0 63000 9449 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 91.7 79.4 5.15 2853 99.9 63000 9481 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 105.0 83.6 5.41 2851 98.6 62544 9750 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 97.0 79.6 5.16 2851 99.3 63000 9513 1.121 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 105.0 84.9 5.50 2851 97.1 58309 10321 1.154 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Wild Boar 89.1 77.4 5.02 2851 100.0 63000 9239 1.138 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 97.7 78.6 5.10 2850 100.0 63000 9151 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 95.8 76.6 4.96 2850 100.0 63000 9108 1.129 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 50 93.5 79.1 5.12 2849 100.0 63000 9384 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 86.2 75.4 4.89 2848 100.0 63000 8917 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 90.5 73.6 4.77 2848 100.0 63000 9156 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 90.9 73.9 4.79 2848 100.0 63000 9211 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 82.6 5.35 2847 100.0 61072 9118 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 97.8 77.8 5.04 2845 100.0 63000 9164 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 94.6 79.5 5.15 2844 100.0 63000 9337 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 91.5 76.9 4.98 2842 100.0 63000 9145 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 101.3 80.6 5.22 2839 99.7 63000 9481 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 99.9 79.8 5.17 2836 98.7 63000 9623 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 99.9 79.8 5.17 2836 98.7 63000 9623 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 96.8 79.8 5.17 2835 98.7 63000 9616 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 89.1 78.1 5.06 2834 99.8 63000 9386 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 85.4 5.53 2834 97.0 56836 10345 1.173 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 89.7 78.3 5.07 2832 99.9 63000 9253 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 96.2 76.0 4.92 2832 100.0 63000 9126 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 96.5 76.0 4.92 2832 100.0 63000 9126 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 90.1 5.84 2831 97.3 60007 9922 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 98.7 79.7 5.17 2830 99.7 63000 9284 1.132 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 88.2 74.8 4.85 2828 100.0 63000 8882 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S341 89.8 78.6 5.09 2826 100.0 63000 8906 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S321 86.5 75.7 4.90 2824 100.0 63000 8900 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 97.1 74.6 4.83 2823 100.0 63000 8938 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 93.2 70.9 4.59 2821 100.0 63000 8469 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.6 90.6 76.0 4.92 2820 100.0 63000 8659 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 88.6 76.0 4.92 2820 100.0 63000 8659 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 105.0 91.0 5.90 2820 95.8 62606 9729 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 87.4 71.5 4.63 2819 100.0 63000 8775 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 105.0 84.2 5.46 2819 96.2 60126 9861 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S062 94.8 75.0 4.86 2819 100.0 63000 8798 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 95.2 75.8 4.91 2815 100.0 63000 8648 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 87.7 5.68 2814 94.5 53629 10655 1.193 IMR 8208 XBR 89.4 72.7 4.71 2812 100.0 63000 8688 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 91.9 73.2 4.74 2809 100.0 63000 8756 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 105.0 81.8 5.30 2808 99.9 56826 9611 1.194 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 85.4 5.53 2806 96.7 55509 10201 1.186 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 86.9 75.4 4.89 2805 100.0 63000 8802 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 103.0 79.0 5.12 2803 100.0 63000 8615 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 93.5 76.9 4.98 2802 100.0 63000 8633 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R902 93.7 73.5 4.76 2801 100.0 63000 8645 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H335 82.4 73.1 4.74 2801 100.0 63000 8493 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 40 87.0 72.2 4.68 2799 100.0 63000 8658 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 10 82.0 71.3 4.62 2798 100.0 63000 8454 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 91.2 73.0 4.73 2798 100.0 63000 8471 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 82.0 71.4 4.63 2797 100.0 63000 8443 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2230 84.8 74.7 4.84 2795 100.0 63000 8556 1.154 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 105.0 86.3 5.59 2792 97.8 56177 9926 1.199 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.5 85.2 74.3 4.82 2792 100.0 63000 8456 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2460 84.9 74.3 4.82 2792 100.0 63000 8456 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 90.7 73.2 4.75 2791 100.0 63000 8560 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2495 89.6 71.3 4.62 2788 100.0 63000 8315 1.183 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 87.3 68.9 4.46 2787 100.0 63000 8236 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2219 82.0 68.9 4.46 2787 100.0 63000 8236 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 96.8 82.1 5.32 2785 98.5 63000 9053 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 105.0 87.3 5.65 2785 93.4 50495 10835 1.230 Lovex S060 91.5 72.4 4.69 2785 100.0 63000 8544 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.4 83.8 73.1 4.74 2782 100.0 63000 8335 1.158 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2210 83.4 70.0 4.54 2777 100.0 63000 8330 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R901 89.9 69.5 4.50 2777 100.0 63000 8318 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 105.0 86.3 5.59 2776 94.0 52376 10442 1.206 ADI AR 2206 90.9 73.1 4.74 2773 100.0 63000 8407 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 93.3 74.4 4.82 2771 100.0 63000 8150 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 88.8 71.1 4.61 2771 100.0 63000 8285 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! ADI BM2 81.7 70.8 4.59 2770 100.0 63000 8266 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 86.3 5.59 2766 94.1 54943 9948 1.191 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 86.3 5.59 2766 95.6 49856 10559 1.240 Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 86.3 5.59 2766 95.6 49856 10559 1.240 Raufoss RA15 105.0 86.3 5.59 2766 95.6 49856 10559 1.240 Alliant AR-Comp 88.5 69.6 4.51 2762 100.0 63000 7852 1.158 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 88.0 69.6 4.51 2762 100.0 63000 7853 1.158 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 99.2 73.2 4.74 2762 100.0 63000 7944 1.161 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2200 81.0 66.9 4.34 2759 100.0 63000 8077 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-12 87.2 72.4 4.69 2759 100.0 63000 8047 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 90.8 5.88 2753 91.1 49269 10741 1.248 Ramshot Magnum 105.0 93.0 6.03 2735 95.9 49878 10182 1.236 Alliant Reloder-10x 84.9 65.2 4.22 2733 100.0 63000 7762 1.162 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S335 91.5 72.8 4.72 2731 100.0 63000 7846 1.161 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2015 87.3 67.9 4.40 2726 100.0 63000 7680 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 82.0 64.7 4.19 2724 100.0 63000 7653 1.138 ! Near Maximum ! SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 81.3 67.6 4.38 2716 100.0 63000 7548 1.175 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4198 82.5 63.0 4.09 2712 100.0 63000 7502 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! artridge : 9.3 x 70 Mag. (DWM569) Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler PART SP 44750 Useable Case Capaci: 88.307 grain H2O = 5.734 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.504 inch = 89.00 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 104 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 91.9 5.95 2842 100.0 61566 11151 1.193 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 70 102.7 89.1 5.77 2813 100.0 63000 10930 1.174 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 105.0 89.2 5.78 2794 99.7 60157 11236 1.207 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 60 96.4 82.3 5.33 2792 100.0 63000 9985 1.180 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 95.3 81.4 5.28 2770 100.0 63000 9916 1.189 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 95.3 81.4 5.28 2770 100.0 63000 9916 1.189 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 87.8 5.69 2760 97.9 60229 11027 1.199 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 104.7 85.2 5.52 2751 99.1 63000 10560 1.190 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 104.0 84.2 5.46 2751 99.1 63000 10484 1.183 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 62 98.8 84.3 5.46 2750 100.0 63000 10005 1.207 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 96.9 84.0 5.45 2749 100.0 63000 10229 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 100.1 84.2 5.45 2747 100.0 63000 10215 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 94.5 81.4 5.27 2743 99.8 63000 10230 1.199 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 94.5 81.4 5.27 2743 99.8 63000 10230 1.199 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 102.1 82.6 5.35 2738 100.0 63000 9456 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 85.5 5.54 2734 99.0 62202 10456 1.198 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 105.0 87.3 5.66 2734 97.0 57002 11280 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 96.8 80.5 5.22 2726 100.0 63000 9883 1.209 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 102.4 83.4 5.40 2725 98.9 63000 10265 1.193 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 99.2 83.4 5.40 2725 98.9 63000 10265 1.193 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 102.4 83.4 5.40 2725 98.9 63000 10265 1.193 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 99.6 80.2 5.20 2725 100.0 63000 9746 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 99.7 80.2 5.20 2725 100.0 63000 9744 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 98.8 80.5 5.21 2721 100.0 63000 9700 1.220 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 105.0 86.4 5.60 2721 97.5 58549 10849 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 104.9 86.3 5.59 2717 99.6 63000 10078 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 90.9 5.89 2712 95.3 56023 11279 1.249 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 86.4 5.60 2710 98.5 56472 10885 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 105.0 86.4 5.60 2710 98.5 56472 10885 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 86.4 5.60 2710 98.5 56472 10885 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 104.6 81.5 5.28 2708 100.0 63000 9529 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 103.0 88.4 5.73 2705 99.0 63000 10015 1.196 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 100.0 82.6 5.35 2704 99.7 63000 9885 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 86.4 5.60 2704 97.3 61474 10322 1.201 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 93.1 78.3 5.07 2702 100.0 63000 9375 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Big Game 90.1 78.1 5.06 2696 100.0 63000 9270 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 103.2 82.8 5.36 2695 98.2 63000 9992 1.197 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon CFE223 85.1 77.1 5.00 2694 100.0 63000 9250 1.206 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 105.0 93.1 6.03 2692 99.0 56689 10463 1.236 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 89.7 73.1 4.73 2689 100.0 63000 9273 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 99.2 79.8 5.17 2688 99.8 63000 9704 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 101.9 81.1 5.26 2687 99.5 63000 9688 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 100.0 81.0 5.25 2687 99.6 63000 9668 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 102.3 80.5 5.22 2684 100.0 63000 8959 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 90.6 73.7 4.78 2684 100.0 63000 9242 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 90.6 73.7 4.78 2684 100.0 63000 9242 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 90.6 73.7 4.78 2684 100.0 63000 9242 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 91.9 76.5 4.95 2682 100.0 63000 9393 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 91.0 74.1 4.80 2680 100.0 63000 9172 1.215 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 93.9 77.1 5.00 2678 99.9 63000 9396 1.190 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 88.7 76.9 4.98 2675 100.0 63000 9294 1.207 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 52 91.0 76.5 4.96 2674 100.0 63000 9255 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 85.6 76.0 4.93 2672 100.0 63000 9060 1.218 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 50 90.4 76.5 4.96 2670 100.0 63000 9187 1.212 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 92.3 75.9 4.92 2670 100.0 63000 9034 1.227 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 92.3 75.9 4.92 2670 100.0 63000 9034 1.227 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Wild Boar 86.1 74.9 4.85 2668 100.0 63000 9047 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 96.8 77.3 5.01 2667 99.6 63000 9542 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 96.8 77.3 5.01 2667 99.6 63000 9542 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 92.6 74.1 4.80 2667 100.0 63000 8916 1.200 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 102.0 88.5 5.73 2666 97.5 63000 9803 1.208 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 91.5 76.9 4.99 2666 100.0 63000 9144 1.212 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 93.8 77.4 5.02 2666 99.6 63000 9535 1.212 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 98.0 78.0 5.06 2665 100.0 63000 9322 1.217 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 94.3 76.0 4.92 2665 100.0 63000 8951 1.227 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 87.8 71.5 4.63 2664 100.0 63000 9011 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 87.4 71.2 4.61 2663 100.0 63000 8956 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 94.5 75.2 4.88 2661 100.0 63000 8973 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 86.3 75.7 4.91 2660 100.0 63000 9224 1.208 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 88.5 74.4 4.82 2660 100.0 63000 8957 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 83.2 72.8 4.72 2659 100.0 63000 8723 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 95.6 77.3 5.01 2657 100.0 63000 9137 1.202 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 86.8 75.8 4.91 2656 100.0 63000 9062 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 93.4 73.6 4.77 2652 100.0 63000 8944 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 93.1 73.6 4.77 2652 100.0 63000 8944 1.204 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S341 86.8 76.1 4.93 2645 100.0 63000 8722 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 85.2 72.4 4.69 2643 100.0 63000 8700 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 93.9 72.2 4.68 2643 100.0 63000 8749 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 105.0 84.8 5.50 2642 96.4 54504 10428 1.269 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 91.2 5.91 2641 96.7 51349 10889 1.287 Somchem S321 83.6 73.2 4.74 2640 100.0 63000 8723 1.220 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 91.2 5.91 2636 96.5 51055 10888 1.290 Lovex S062 91.6 72.5 4.70 2635 100.0 63000 8613 1.224 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 84.5 69.2 4.48 2634 100.0 63000 8591 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 105.0 84.5 5.48 2634 97.6 51594 10660 1.298 Bofors RP15 105.0 84.5 5.48 2634 97.6 51594 10660 1.298 Lovex D073.6 87.4 73.3 4.75 2632 100.0 63000 8470 1.233 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 85.4 73.3 4.75 2632 100.0 63000 8470 1.233 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 8208 XBR 86.5 70.4 4.56 2628 100.0 63000 8508 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 83.6 5.42 2627 100.0 51517 9800 1.301 IMR 3031 89.8 68.3 4.43 2627 100.0 63000 8276 1.223 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 88.9 70.8 4.59 2626 100.0 63000 8575 1.227 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 84.1 73.1 4.74 2626 100.0 63000 8629 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 91.7 73.1 4.73 2625 100.0 63000 8452 1.251 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 105.0 85.5 5.54 2624 99.7 56360 9665 1.284 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 93.8 79.7 5.17 2621 99.4 63000 8998 1.217 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 99.6 76.5 4.96 2620 100.0 63000 8457 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R902 90.6 71.1 4.61 2618 100.0 63000 8466 1.228 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 40 84.2 69.9 4.53 2618 100.0 63000 8485 1.215 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 90.4 74.4 4.82 2617 100.0 63000 8481 1.223 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2230 82.0 72.3 4.68 2613 100.0 63000 8376 1.226 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 87.9 71.0 4.60 2611 100.0 63000 8393 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 88.1 70.6 4.57 2611 100.0 63000 8301 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.5 82.3 71.8 4.65 2607 100.0 63000 8277 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2460 82.0 71.8 4.65 2607 100.0 63000 8277 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S060 88.6 70.2 4.55 2606 100.0 63000 8377 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.4 81.0 70.7 4.58 2598 100.0 63000 8161 1.231 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 84.3 66.6 4.32 2598 100.0 63000 8065 1.217 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 105.0 83.1 5.38 2596 95.7 49665 10500 1.309 Accurate 2495 86.3 68.7 4.45 2595 100.0 63000 8119 1.259 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206 88.1 70.9 4.59 2595 100.0 63000 8251 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2210 80.7 67.9 4.40 2594 100.0 63000 8167 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 105.0 83.1 5.38 2593 95.8 53641 9959 1.277 Rottweil R901 86.9 67.2 4.35 2591 100.0 63000 8139 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 105.0 88.7 5.75 2591 95.9 50834 10377 1.294 Hodgdon Benchmark 85.9 68.9 4.46 2589 100.0 63000 8128 1.215 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 87.1 5.65 2588 93.7 52235 10277 1.285 Vihtavuori N140 90.2 72.0 4.67 2586 100.0 63000 7996 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 85.0 5.51 2580 99.4 46386 10459 1.350 Alliant Reloder-12 84.4 70.0 4.54 2574 100.0 63000 7899 1.222 ! Near Maximu Cartridge : 9.3 x 70 Mag. (DWM569) Bullet : .366, 300, Swift A-Frame SS Useable Case Capaci: 90.048 grain H2O = 5.847 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.504 inch = 89.00 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 113 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant Reloder-26 102.3 91.3 5.92 2785 100.0 63000 11115 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 103.1 89.3 5.79 2760 100.0 63000 11272 1.216 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 104.9 88.9 5.76 2753 98.5 63000 11588 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 70 99.9 88.3 5.72 2748 100.0 63000 10902 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 92.7 6.00 2741 97.3 62705 11657 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 103.4 88.2 5.71 2737 98.8 63000 11181 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 88.1 5.71 2728 99.6 62883 11118 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 88.1 5.71 2728 99.6 62883 11118 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 105.0 88.1 5.71 2728 99.6 62883 11118 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 104.4 87.6 5.67 2723 98.7 63000 11094 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 60 93.4 81.4 5.27 2719 100.0 63000 9940 1.213 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 104.8 94.8 6.14 2714 99.8 63000 10621 1.210 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 92.3 80.4 5.21 2696 100.0 63000 9866 1.224 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 92.3 80.4 5.21 2696 100.0 63000 9866 1.224 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 101.2 83.5 5.41 2687 99.4 63000 10514 1.214 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 101.7 84.4 5.47 2685 99.5 63000 10580 1.222 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 94.1 83.2 5.39 2680 100.0 63000 10192 1.229 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 102.4 85.0 5.51 2679 99.4 63000 10507 1.223 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 97.2 83.3 5.40 2679 100.0 63000 10179 1.229 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 62 95.7 83.2 5.39 2678 100.0 63000 9952 1.241 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 93.0 6.03 2678 98.6 57470 11203 1.254 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 91.8 80.5 5.22 2675 100.0 63000 10206 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 91.8 80.5 5.22 2675 100.0 63000 10206 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 93.0 6.03 2673 98.4 57143 11210 1.257 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 105.0 86.5 5.60 2663 98.1 60589 10744 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 98.7 81.5 5.28 2663 100.0 63000 9403 1.239 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 102.9 86.4 5.60 2662 98.1 63000 10454 1.220 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 99.6 82.7 5.36 2661 99.3 63000 10297 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 99.6 82.7 5.36 2661 99.3 63000 10297 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 96.4 82.7 5.36 2661 99.3 63000 10297 1.225 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 105.0 86.2 5.59 2656 99.0 57565 10940 1.271 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP15 105.0 86.2 5.59 2656 99.0 57565 10940 1.271 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 93.9 79.6 5.16 2656 100.0 63000 9843 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 96.6 79.4 5.14 2655 100.0 63000 9705 1.237 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 96.7 79.4 5.14 2655 100.0 63000 9703 1.237 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 101.8 85.5 5.54 2650 99.8 63000 10077 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 95.7 79.4 5.15 2649 100.0 63000 9643 1.255 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 100.3 87.7 5.69 2642 99.3 63000 10057 1.228 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 85.3 5.53 2640 100.0 57863 9870 1.273 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 97.2 81.9 5.31 2639 99.9 63000 9884 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 104.9 87.1 5.64 2638 100.0 63000 9748 1.256 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 101.4 80.6 5.22 2638 100.0 63000 9487 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 100.4 82.2 5.33 2633 98.7 63000 10049 1.228 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 90.3 77.4 5.02 2632 100.0 63000 9341 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Big Game 87.4 77.3 5.01 2626 100.0 63000 9236 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon CFE223 82.5 76.3 4.95 2624 100.0 63000 9216 1.239 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 99.1 80.5 5.22 2624 99.8 63000 9703 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 105.0 84.7 5.49 2624 97.7 54994 10845 1.282 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 105.0 90.5 5.86 2623 97.9 56250 10714 1.266 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 97.3 80.3 5.20 2623 99.8 63000 9680 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 96.4 79.1 5.13 2623 100.0 63000 9695 1.248 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 87.1 72.3 4.68 2619 100.0 63000 9236 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 88.0 73.0 4.73 2615 100.0 63000 9211 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 88.0 73.0 4.73 2615 100.0 63000 9211 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 88.0 73.0 4.73 2615 100.0 63000 9211 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 91.4 76.5 4.96 2614 100.0 63000 9392 1.221 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 89.3 75.7 4.91 2614 100.0 63000 9365 1.249 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 99.2 79.7 5.16 2614 100.0 63000 8927 1.239 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 88.9 5.76 2611 95.9 57286 10684 1.263 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 88.3 73.3 4.75 2610 100.0 63000 9139 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 105.0 84.7 5.49 2610 97.6 59076 10289 1.256 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 86.3 76.3 4.94 2609 100.0 63000 9275 1.239 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 86.7 5.62 2608 100.0 51765 10585 1.318 Somchem S361 99.4 87.9 5.70 2607 98.1 63000 9884 1.239 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 52 88.5 75.9 4.92 2607 100.0 63000 9233 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 94.3 76.8 4.98 2604 99.8 63000 9566 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 94.3 76.8 4.98 2604 99.8 63000 9566 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 50 87.8 75.8 4.91 2603 100.0 63000 9164 1.244 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 91.3 76.9 4.98 2603 99.8 63000 9560 1.243 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 83.0 75.2 4.87 2601 100.0 63000 9026 1.252 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Wild Boar 83.6 74.2 4.81 2600 100.0 63000 9024 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 95.3 77.4 5.02 2600 100.0 63000 9305 1.249 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 89.0 76.3 4.94 2600 100.0 63000 9122 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 90.0 73.5 4.76 2599 100.0 63000 8894 1.232 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 89.4 75.0 4.86 2598 100.0 63000 8990 1.262 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 89.4 75.0 4.86 2598 100.0 63000 8990 1.262 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 85.4 70.9 4.59 2596 100.0 63000 8988 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 84.0 75.2 4.87 2595 100.0 63000 9217 1.240 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 84.9 70.5 4.57 2594 100.0 63000 8930 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 91.4 75.1 4.86 2594 100.0 63000 8908 1.262 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 93.0 76.7 4.97 2593 100.0 63000 9126 1.234 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 86.0 73.7 4.78 2592 100.0 63000 8938 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 91.7 74.5 4.83 2592 100.0 63000 8942 1.255 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 84.4 75.1 4.87 2589 100.0 63000 9040 1.252 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 80.7 72.1 4.67 2589 100.0 63000 8689 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 91.0 73.0 4.73 2587 100.0 63000 8936 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 90.6 73.0 4.73 2587 100.0 63000 8936 1.235 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N165 105.0 86.2 5.59 2583 99.3 58755 9734 1.272 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S341 84.4 75.4 4.88 2577 100.0 63000 8701 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 91.4 71.7 4.64 2576 100.0 63000 8735 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 82.8 71.7 4.65 2575 100.0 63000 8681 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S321 81.2 72.5 4.70 2571 100.0 63000 8703 1.253 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 105.0 83.6 5.41 2567 98.1 59043 9716 1.267 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 82.2 68.6 4.45 2566 100.0 63000 8574 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S062 89.0 71.8 4.65 2566 100.0 63000 8588 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 91.5 79.3 5.14 2561 99.7 63000 9039 1.248 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 81.9 72.6 4.70 2561 100.0 63000 8627 1.246 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 8208 XBR 84.1 69.8 4.52 2561 100.0 63000 8496 1.245 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 82.8 72.4 4.69 2561 100.0 63000 8427 1.267 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.6 84.7 72.4 4.69 2561 100.0 63000 8427 1.267 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 86.4 70.1 4.55 2557 100.0 63000 8556 1.261 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 86.9 67.5 4.37 2554 100.0 63000 8229 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 96.8 75.8 4.91 2552 100.0 63000 8440 1.255 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 40 82.1 69.5 4.50 2552 100.0 63000 8484 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 88.6 72.0 4.66 2551 100.0 63000 8386 1.286 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R902 88.0 70.5 4.57 2550 100.0 63000 8448 1.262 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 87.9 73.7 4.78 2548 100.0 63000 8464 1.256 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 85.6 70.5 4.57 2546 100.0 63000 8392 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S060 86.4 69.8 4.52 2543 100.0 63000 8386 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 85.6 69.9 4.53 2542 100.0 63000 8277 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP30 105.0 87.2 5.65 2534 96.7 47396 10930 1.378 Norma MRP 2 105.0 87.2 5.65 2534 96.7 47396 10930 1.378 ADI AR 2206 85.9 70.5 4.57 2531 100.0 63000 8263 1.242 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 81.9 66.0 4.27 2529 100.0 63000 8044 1.250 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 83.8 68.5 4.44 2524 100.0 63000 8134 1.248 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N570 105.0 91.9 5.95 2522 90.3 45660 11576 1.387 Rottweil R901 84.4 66.5 4.31 2521 100.0 63000 8119 1.275 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2495 83.2 67.6 4.38 2520 100.0 63000 8042 1.296 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 87.6 71.3 4.62 2518 100.0 63000 7979 1.258 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-12 82.0 69.4 4.50 2507 100.0 63000 7889 1.255 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 92.8 69.9 4.53 2503 100.0 63000 7750 1.270 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S071 105.0 82.4 5.34 2499 99.7 52385 9504 1.368 Alliant AR-Comp 82.5 66.2 4.29 2496 100.0 63000 7635 1.271 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 82.0 66.2 4.29 2496 100.0 63000 7636 1.271 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 95.8 6.21 2491 90.1 44616 11405 1.401 As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Wow, Thanks Ramrod, I like Norma MRP & URP, Ramshot Magnum, and H4831SC. That is the correct DWM number. I will have to buy myself Quick Load for Christmas. This cartridge isn't the most efficient, but it surely carries the mail. It gets a Vais muzzle brake for solo practice, as well. | |||
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Will do detailed runs when I get back to town. We had 2' drifts and Denver has nothing. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Denver doesn't deserve snow. Thank you so much for the data runs. This is going to be a great rifle!!! | |||
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Hi Lawndart. Looking foreward to see your 9,3x70. 300grain @ 2600-2700 ft/sec is actually ok. It won´t let you down. I wonder if those numbers could be stretched if you allowed a little more COL(more powderspace) and more freebore?. Anyway...the original ballistics of this cartridge is more than `nuff. It´s the 1930s answer to a modern day .340Wby. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Hello Jens, It looks like 2,750 fps/840 mps is easily achievable. The limit isn't capacity so much as the nature of a given powder. Norma MRP looks good for the heavier bullet masses. Once I have the rifle, I will carefully work up loads with the usual suspects: MRP, H-1000, Retumbo, 7828, H4831, and so on. The 250-grain bullet is looking good with Reloder-15/Norma N-203B. 286-grain Partition, 90.0 grains of MRP yields 2,800+ FPS I can live with that. 250-grain Accubond, 75.0-grains of N-203B yields 2,840 FPS. 300-grain Swift A-Frame, 88.0-grains of MRP yields 2,720 FPS. This load puts this cartridge into the Major Leagues. | |||
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