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i have got some great accurate loads with sierra and nosler 120s.. i have been wanting to try some 120 speer hot core. bought some on sale..But, I cannot get them to group.. I hate not to use them. I am shooting a Ruger M-77 S.S. | ||
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Whatever do you mean by "cannot get them to group"? Patterns up to 12 moa? 6 moa? 1 moa? . | |||
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lets put it this way, if my handloads don't shoot 1moa at 100 yards, its not grouping. right now im at 1.75. not good. On a good day my sierra will go about .750 | |||
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SOme barrels just don't like some bullets @ certain vel. My 338-06 will not shoot any 225gr bullet into less than 2" unless I slow them way down to 2550fps. I can get any 250gr to that vel & shoot 1moa. Most ohter 185gr-210gr bullets will also shoot 1moa. Rifle barrels are funny things. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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You may simply have a bad batch of Hot Cores.... It happens with every mnanufacturer....it's why we buy and test several /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Speer is dropping the core lock and going to a new bullet across the board called the "deep curl" I` would forget the HC bullet and find another choice. JMHO ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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Vines, I run a Rem 700 CDL SF Limited in 260 Rem. It's had a little custom work; trigger, crown touched up, pillar/glass bedded and free floated and I'm VERY/EXTREMLY happy with it. One of the loads I developed to practice with is the 120 HC. I "drop" 66.2 clicks of Varget in Nosler cases capped with Fed 210 match primers. I say 66.2 clicks because I use a Harrells Premium powder meter and at the moment, I'm not sure what that means in weight. It hits 2750 in the 24" barrel. My 3-shot, 100 yds groups run 1/2". My OAL is 2.830"; just barely fits my mag. If you're dedicated to keep trying the 120 HC, try Varget. Alan | |||
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I use a lot of Speer bullets... I've always noticed, they seem to have a lot more QC or demands on their varmint bullets than they do their hunting bullets.. If I can't get a Speer hunting bullet to shoot regardless of caliber, usually dropping the velocity down, tightens the groups right up.. There are other 120s out there anyway..why know yourself out trying to get one to shoot, which will probably take the entire box or two you have to find the 'sweet spot'... | |||
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don't know why but i've only had a very few speer bullets work well. try a few sierras | |||
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I have a 260rem in a Browning A-bolt. it does not like the Speer bullets either. I does however LOVE the Sierra 140 gr Gameking. (.430 group was the best) With an average of .563 (out of the box, nothing done to it) All that said, in general, my gun likes all 140 gr stuff better that 120 gr. May want to try some. | |||
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Some rifles do not like some bullets. Live with it. 1.75 ain't no shabby hunting group tho. If you want to shoot Speers, learn to live with that. have you tweaked your load around? or did you just switch bullets? If you've some other good hunting bullets that do group to suit you, I wouldn't angst about it too much. That's why most reloaders have a closet full of partial boxes of bullets. Use them to fire form some brass or for practice. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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That's just the way it works sometime. I have the same rifle you have in 260 it shoots 100gr Nosler BT and 120gr partitions the best the others I use for practice bullets. | |||
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"my .260 will not group the 120 speer" Sounds like time to try something else. | |||
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Absolutely! Might be the powder. Barrel might not like the bullet. | |||
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Jim C. read my post... I am getting great accurace with sierra and nosler 120s... I have shoot W-760 loaded up and down.. and i have shoot RL-15..loaded up and down.. I dont think it is a powder problem.. | |||
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rcamuglia, barrel might not like bullet.. that is kinda what I am thinking.. The speer 120s i shoot in the 25-06 shoot real good | |||
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I have not tried the Speer 120s yet, so if you decide to try something else, PM me and let me know what you want for them. I might buy them. Larry "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Read MY post; I didn't say it was your powder. | |||
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