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It should not have too great an effect, but a somewhat quick, and inexpensive, way would be to grab a Lee crimp die, and put a slight crimp on the bullet. I have talked to Barnes about this, and they saw no problem doing this. HTH, Dutch. P.S, that's my elk load too, except I use RL19. | |||
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<Bill> |
Sounds like you may have insufficent neck tension, are you neck or partial sizing the cases? I have loaded a huge variety of 7 Rem ammo, including the XLC in different guns and haven't experinced the problem you have. That's my guess at least. | ||
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The easiest 'fix' is to seat the bullets a bit deeper so that they don't slam against the front of the magazine box under recoil. Make sure the loads shoot well with the new COAL. I don't crimp bullets that don't have a cannelure (like the 'X'). Neck tension has always been sufficient, up to and including .375H&H. George ------------------ | |||
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Ditto on the Lee die. You may find that using 1/4 turn crimp will improve your accuracy also. I was shooting the 140X in my 7mm STW and could never get it to break 1.5" until the crimp die came into play. One-quarter crimp put groups well below 1" and yes, it will crimp the X bullet even if there is no crimp groove. By the way, 1/2 turn crimp turned the groups into patterns, a bit too much of a good thing. | |||
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<monyhunter> |
So I am going to take the advice and get a Lee crimp die today and try it out. Will this affect accuracy at all? Thanks for all your help. I have been to this site many time in the past, but for some reason never saw the forum link. I have missed out on months of great advice from such a great site. I have been a big fan of the huntchat.com site for about 6 months now. Too bad I could not have been involved with both sites for those six months. I will keep you all posted on my results with the loads as well as my hunting trip in two weeks. Can't wait. | ||
<10point> |
I only crimp my straight walled but I should probably crimp everything. Im convinced proper seating depth is the single most overlooked aspect of achieving maximum accuracy, and thus max confidence. Buy the crimper, load, reseat, crimp some bullets in, and never look back. I agree that you might never notice the difference with the force seated bullets, but why take the chance. A different seat can also affect pressure's and , especially if your useing 1st run brass, you might get a bolt stick when you try to cycle for another shot on that trophy. Its not worth it, your attention to detail is commendable.If anything crimping your bullets should improve your accuracy. Confidence in your load is also a factor in accuracy........10 | ||
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quote: I put a muzzle brake on my Ruger 77 MK II and it solved a lot of problems. tsiero | |||
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I've noticed bullet setback in calibers as small as the .257 roberts, what you've experienced isn't uncommon at all. I agree with the others, get the lee factory crimp die, I use it for all my hunting rounds. It works different than other crimpers and you don't have to have a cannelure to use it. Read the instructions and I recommend just a light crimp, no need to bear down on it. If anything the crimped rounds seem to shoot a bit better out of my rifles, definately not any worse. I've noticed I get more consistent velocities when using the die. For around $8 it's a great deal. | |||
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<txhunter> |
Does anybody kow how much Lee would charge to make a crimp die for a wild cat, say a 270/300 RUM? | ||
<monyhunter> |
Ok everyone, thank you very much for the advice. I have purchased the crimp die and loaded 12 rounds last night to test tomorrow morning. I put about a 1/2 crimp on them. I will be sure to post the results here. I was getting good groups of 1", so it will be absolutely awesome if I can get better than that. If things go well with improved accuracy, I may just get a crimp die for my .243 as well. Thanks again. Look here tomorrow afternoon for the results. | ||
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quote: As far as I know, it's $25 for a custom factory crimper in any caliber that's not larger than the die. | |||
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