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8X57 180gr BT loads?
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<257 AI>
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Has anyone used the Nosler 180gr ballistic tip in a 8X57? What was your load and how did it work?
 
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I can't say that I have done a lot of experimenting with this combination (180BT in 8X57), but I have used IMR 4064 extensively with the Nosler 180gr Balistic Tip in 8mm-06 Ackley Improved. Soooooo, I played around a little with the old 8X57 with the same combo (4064 & 180 BT)
I was able to get 2800fps with no pressure signs and a very slightly compessed load density. The Sd was less than 15fps, 12.7fps or something like that. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

As I said, I didn't do a lot of load developement, just flung a few over the old chronograph. I was using G.I. "06" once fired (from a Garand no less) brass that I trimmed and ran through the 8X57 dies. C.O.L. of 3.150" 49gr IMR 4064. I started @ 44grs and worked up. Never got any pressure signs and velocity was very consistant as the load density became compressed slightly. (as has been my experience wuth IMR 4064) [Wink] [Wink]
 
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Thanx, 2800 would deffinatly do the trick! I've been using the 185gr corelocks and thought I might try the 180gr BTs for deer.
 
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I think you may find with 180 gr 8x57mm IMR4895:

49.5 gr most accurate 2700 fps
52.5 gr slightly sticky bolt
54.5 gr very sticky bolt
 
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The following load data are predictive calculations only derived from "Quickload" using the following parameters.

  • 180gr Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet
  • 23.5" barrel (military M-98k length)
  • C.O.L. 3.150" (average length to .010" off the lands in the 2 M-98K actions that I own)
  • Maximum pressure 58,700psi (S.A.A.M.I. spec for 30-06)
The following are for reference only. Reduce by 10% and work up cautiously!
Listed in descending order of muzzle velocity,95% miinimum, 106% maximum load dessity.

  • V-V N550---105.6% load den---56.7gr ---2848fps---98.3% prop burn---58,700psi
  • Win 760---102.4% load den---57.3gr---2844fps---95.8%prop burn---58700psi
  • Norma 203B---100.8% load den---51.9gr---2825fps---99.9% prop burn---58700psi
  • IMR 4895---98.4% load den---50.6gr---2819fps---100.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • Hod 380---103.3% load den---54.9gr---2814fps---98.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • Alli RL15---100.6% load den---51.8gr---2808fps---99.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • IMR 3031---98.3% load den---48.4gr---2799fps---100.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • V-V N150---105.6% load den---53.8gr---2798fps---100.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • IMR 4320---99.2% load den---51.9gr---2790fps---99.2% prop burn---58700psi
  • Acc Arms 2520---95.2% load den---51.7gr---2774fps---100.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • Norma 202---100.8% load den---51.0gr---2770fps---99.9% prop burn---58700psi
  • Hod 414---99.3% load den---55.5gr---2760fps---92.7% prop burn---58700psi
  • IMR 4064---99.8% load den---50.3gr---2756fps---99.0% prop burn---58700psi
  • Hod Varget---97.3% load den---50.4gr---2756fps---99.3% prop burn---58700psi
These are calculations only, results may vary.
results are usually close to actual results.

Note IMR prediction of 2756fps @ 50.3gr as compared to actual tested results of 2800fps @ 49gr. [Smile]

This should give you some idea of where to start and what kind of results you might expect @ ADULT pressure levels. [Big Grin]

Enjoy your 8X57, one of the most under-rated cartridges in existance [Wink] [Wink]
 
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Just for contrast, I recently worked up a load for a 175 grn sierra and considered 50 grs of RLR 15 one grn under max @ 2800 fs.

Thats 100 fs better than I can get from my 22" bbl 06 with a 180 grn and more powder. Definatley underrated. [Wink]
 
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