"Immaturity and disrespect"? You have more to learn more about those concepts than you're capable of teaching as far as I'm concerned. You're so full of your own misguided, sanctimonious moralizations that I can smell you from here, so save the 'my way or the highway' lectures for someone who's interested -- I'm NOT.........

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VarmintGuy,

I have had your posts on ignore but I went back and skimmed it as I was wondering what rilled allen up.

Consider taking it a little easier on us ok?

I have never had a Nosler partition fail, but I will stipulate that they sure work better in .308 caliber and larger...I won't use them on deer in smaller caliber than .270 as they do not leave a big hole for blood to escape from below that caliber.

I have had poor blood trails with Noslers and light calibers like 6mm and 25 cal. on more than one ocassion although the bullet performed as it was designed to do.

Look at this way a Nosler is half solid and half soft point, it expands less, has a smaller cross section expanded, than any conventional bullet and relies more on penitration, thus it is less effective with smaller calibers on the smaller animals like deer and antelope...Most of the time it is effective and does the job, but ocassionally you will have a problem...

Understanding bullet construction and what a particular bullet is designed to do is very important in the hunting field..In other words use the proper bullet for the task at hand...

I think many folks put to much faith on too few kills to make an intelligent judgement on a bullet...

Above 30 caliber, I think Noslers are one of the best bullets available today, along with Northfork, and Woodleigh...The Nosler will out penitrate either of the other two, but will not expand as much...take your pick to fit your need...

I have omitted monolithics from this discussion as that opens up a whole nuther ball game...

I guess I have loaded 10 boxes of Nosler partitions in various calibers and with 4 exceptions have gotten excellent performance. I no longer push my bullets to the extreme as my 270 is the rifle I push to the highest average velocity and use 130 grain bullets only for antelope where the interloc works well. I use my 338 to push heavy bullets to 2600 fps but it seldom goes hunting anymore as my timber rifle is either a 54 muzzleloader or 45-70. I think I have come to using heavy bullets instead of making medium weight bullets do what heavy bullets can do more reliably. Good heavy bullets outperform good light bullets every time.

Ray: If you don't like Partitions, then what bullet would you recommend for deer using high velocity cartridges that are less than 30 cal. (Specifically, I'm interested in the 264WM, 270WSM and 257AI). Thanks for your thoughts...Jim

Count me in as a Nimrod also. I grew up being tought to bust the shoulders. My son is 6 and he is being trained for shoulders. Smash the shoulders and more than likely you disrupt the spine. That is lights out. High is a clean miss, low is in the boiler room, left or right takes the low neck or spine. Just like you ripped the rug out from under them. About as humane as you can get, DRT. A bunch of assorted factory, NPs BTs all have dropped them dead. To say I have never lost a deer is stupid. You do anything enough something will go wrong. All have been my fault. Pushing the shot, not thinking about the angle, hitting brush, not the bullet, rifle or caliber. I saw a Core Lock come apart like a varmit bullet. 150 grain PSP from a 7mm Rem mag Rem factory. Penatration was less than 6 inches, big surface wound. The hit was right on the shoulder point quartering towards us at 50 yards. Deer went 35 yards dead on it's feet. There is no full proof bullet, rifle or caliber. I shoot NBT becuase they performed well so far and are super accurate in all of my rifles. I trust my gear and know it limitations. I just started using the NBTs about 4 years ago. 10 whiteatils all but one fell right out of the scope. That one did not go 30 yards. Internal damage is incredible. So for now NBT and a shoulder blade thank you.