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I just purchased a new Win. M-70 Featherweight in SS - .30/06. I have put together a serries of hand loads and plan to head to the range to see what she will do. I have had a diffrent recomendation from every one I speak with on how to break in the barrel. They range from clean out after every shot for the first 25 rounds to using lapping coumpound on bullets (UGH!) to other that say just shoot the damn thing. In the past I must admit to following the latter recomendation but I am open if there is a better way? I am not looking for a bench rest comp gun here just for a decent hunting rifle when I am done. I appreciate the input. Scout Master 54 | ||
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I have looked into this recently as well since I just rebarreled my Savage. One site, I forget which, recommended shooting one bullet, then using foam cleaner, a nylon brush to scrub, then running patches till clean and then soaking again overnight and running patches til clean; do this 5 times. I am going with the clean after every shot for 25 times, after that I am going to check for excess copper fouling. If there is excess copper fouling I am going to try again another 10 shoot/clean rotations. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then is not an act, but a habit"--Aristotle (384BC-322BC) | |||
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ther sure is alot of opinions on this. Clean good to start. shoot 1 round clean shoot 3 rounds and clean then go for it. | |||
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Hello Scout 54, is that your age? :-) I just got a new stainless barrel on my Sendero. The first 100 rounds a cleaned every 10 rounds thouroughly, now every 30 rounds or within 3 - 4 months. If you got a bad barrel you can break in till the end of your life and it will stay a bad barrel, sorry for you! If you get 1 to 1,5 MOA with the ILDM of Audette, don't bother. Topic: https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2511043/m/571104925 Have a nice day, Jan. | |||
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If I had time, I would shoot one shot and then run a single patch of shooters choice through the barrel for the first 50 rounds. What I really do, is clean very thoroughly after each 10 to 15 rounds for the first 100 or so shots through the barrel. The purpose is to smooth out the barrel for less fouling. Most barrels (possibly 1 exception) I've done this with don't foul badly at all so I presume it's working. | |||
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Well, I shot 3 cleaned, shot 10 cleaned and shot 15 more. That was about as patient as I could be. Of the loads tried (limited 1st range session) it showed a decided preference for Hornadays 150g BTSPI with 49.5g of IMR-4895. Thanks to all, still many more range sessions to go. Thanks. | |||
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I have gone about it both ways and I think there may be some merit to starting with some procedure to start with. The best one I have found thus far was recommended by Krieger. 5 - 1 shot and clean 1 - 3 shot group 1 - 5 shot group or another 3 shot for magnums After that then every 15-30 rounds or whenever you feel like it. I did this with my last 375 barrel and I noticed fouling being reduced significantly over the course of fire...even with copper TSX's. If things get really ugly then I get into abrasive compounds such as JB bore paste or the like. | |||
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A local gunsmith who use to be on the Marine Corp rifle team and was a marine armourer.... I asked him the same question... He told me, that when his customers ask about breaking in a new barrel, he just recommends going out and shooting the darn thing like it was already broken in.... He indicated that is what he has always done... and for a hunting rifle, has always worked fine... and that he has even done the same thing for competition barrels... I have always followed the same advise... | |||
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This is what Shilen has to say about the subject of break-in:
And just to show, that no two opinions are the same, this is what Krieger thinks:
- mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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The common practice I use is to shoot one and clean for 10 rounds, thoroughly clean, and clean after each 3 shot group for 3-4 groups. Then clean w/ bore foam after every 15-20 rounds. That's what most of my gun-nut buddies and I have been doing. My opinion is that it certainly will not hurt it so why not do it. Of course if it's a hunting rifle, you haven't officially broken it in until you've gotten alittle blood on it . Good Luck Reloader | |||
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I am certainly no marine armorer, or match-rifle gunsmith either! But this is essentially what I do, Back in the days when I was shooting competitively, I never heard anyone even MENTION the idea of "breaking in a barrel." This is a relatively recent phenomenon....... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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When I first started getting into guns and rebarreled a few, I did the Shilen break-in method... Honestly I'm too lazy to do so anymore, I really don't have the time to drag all that shit to the range and spend hours scrubbing out a bore after every shot... Now I just clean the barrel well prior to going to the range, shoot the loads I have for the rifle, and clean it up when I get home. Just last month my 'new' rifle was an Armalite AR15 National Match rifle I've had for 3+ years and never got around to shooting. A friend wanted to get some practice in before a qualification he had to shoot for work (prison system). I brought only the Armalite and 250 rounds. Cleaned up the bore well before shooting and we fired about 150 rounds that day out of a brand new bore. At the end of the session I wrapped into a tight sling and shot a 1 1/4" 5 shot group with open sights at 100yds on a very poor target (light orange 5 spot Hoppe's). Nope, I don't worry too much about breaking 'in' barrels anymore. Shoot straight, shoot often. Matt | |||
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After having read all this, you could break-in a barrel of mediocre and less quality. The less the quality is, the more single rounds (one shot - clean) you need. I think it will be cheaper to buy a wellmade and borepolished barrel than spend some hundreds of cartridges to get the bore lapped. The topic of Mike is worth reading. Matt: some years ago I did some investigation on parallax of some 12 scopes and fired in one week about 500 rounds with one single rifle, a SAKO, .270 Winchester, handloads Sierra. At the end of that week (bless Friday), the rifle still performed minus MOA, without cleaning! I got four new barrels now, two custommade. The last one I did not break-in. Guess: sub MOA with TSX en AccuBond, after a good 100 rounds ever improving! Jan. | |||
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Here's the "theory" -- The shooting "laps" the finish of the bore. And so you want to smooth the finish of the bore without putting down copper jacket in the pores of the bore surface. Shoot a round. Brass brush, copper solvent. Run cotton patches on a jag. Use some copper solvent. Repeat, about 20 times. | |||
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