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21 October 2015, 17:46
Brice
Bar bet info
An eye-blink lasts about 1/10 of a second. That is the amount of time needed for a typical rifle bullet to travel 100 yards from the muzzle.
21 October 2015, 18:42
gab
My calculations are that at 2800fps=933.3 YARDS PER SECOND divided by 10 = 93.3 yards in the first 1/10 of a second--So, technically no not 100 yards but pretty damn close so as you would not notice.

Hope you won the bet

Gary
21 October 2015, 20:09
dpcd
You both have miscalculated; have to factor in the fact that the muzzle velocity is not constant and velocity is ever decreasing; if it is 2800 fps at the muzzle, it is less at 100 yards; depending on the bullet. It is not a laser beam weapon.
21 October 2015, 20:24
Ramhunter
gab & dpcd,

How can you definitely say Brice miscalculated? He never defined what he considered a "typical" bullet or cartridge was nor what muzzle velocity he assumed. Sheesh! What nit-picking over a bar bet!
21 October 2015, 21:17
The Dane
Now nit pickers dont go away mad, just go away!


21 October 2015, 22:20
ramrod340
Man just go have another. beer

If you are going to argue over little details in a bar bet you need more beer Big Grin


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
21 October 2015, 22:29
dpcd
All I am saying is that you can't assume a constant velocity over any distance; you all already know that. The bullet traveling 100 yards in one second is often true, but not at a constant velocity. Gab's theory is the one I was commenting on.
You have to realize that I have nothing else to do.
Wait, I do; all those gun parts in my shop that people want worked on.
21 October 2015, 23:44
Allan DeGroot
I usually figure 1/3 of a second for time of flight for a 50gr .223 Blitz-King to fly to the gong-plate at 300 meters at my club's range... and just under another second for the sound of impact to return to my ears....

I spend an awful lot of time hammering at that plate with my Rem 700 VSSF .223 rifle...

and in an average week burn up about a pound of Reloader7 doing that...

I'm very good at banging that 8" square of 1" plate with any bolt action rifle I own.... I have been educating the "tacti-cool" club members of our club that the only thing relevant to calculating "wind drift" is not caliber or bullet weight, but "time of flight"

And "bullet drop" is also related to "time of flight".


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22 October 2015, 01:26
arkypete
Well Shoot, with a 1/10th of a second any of us could dodge the bullet and throw our knife with effect at the assassin.

Jim


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22 October 2015, 01:30
bartsche
Confused Dull day ????? Roll Eyes roger


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22 October 2015, 04:32
gab
OK dpcd, I need to defend myself Big Grin and have you read what I wrote---It said in the first 1/10 of a second--that's all the op asked.
He did not ask and I did not reply to a longer range shot--there was no consideration of any velocity AFTER 93.3 yards.
perhaps you need to re-visit the clinton definition of what exactly the meaing of is-is.

There--I have defended my honor an smote another infidel killpc

Gary

In case you have thin skin-all in jest!
22 October 2015, 05:05
dpcd
Ok, you got me. I admit not thinking through this completely, before responding. I usually respond without reading or thinking at all.
22 October 2015, 17:38
Brice
Before you heat up the tar bucket, let me remind you that I said ABOUT 1/10 of a second. I'm talking rule-of-thumb. A 257 Weatherby takes about .09 seconds. A 300 Savage about .14 seconds Most of the hunting rifles found in a typical hunting camp will be pretty close to 1/10. According to my ballistics program. Sheesh!
02 November 2015, 07:11
N E 450 No2
This post reminds me of the Cleopatra Jones rule...

BLINK, AND YOU DIE IN THE DARK!!!


Sorry could not resist. Smiler


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03 November 2015, 19:09
Brice
Say what, 450? Must be a pop culture reference. Whizzed right by.
11 December 2015, 05:05
New Kid
quote:
Originally posted by dpcd:
You have to realize that I have nothing else to do.
Wait, I do; all those gun parts in my shop that people want worked on.


They've waited this long ...


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12 December 2015, 04:47
BaxterB
A bullet is fired parallel to the ground at the exact same time another is dropped next to the muzzle. Which one hits the ground first?
12 December 2015, 04:55
craigster
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
A bullet is fired parallel to the ground at the exact same time another is dropped next to the muzzle. Which one hits the ground first?


THey hit at the same time.
12 December 2015, 17:57
Heym 450/400
quote:
Originally posted by craigster:
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
A bullet is fired parallel to the ground at the exact same time another is dropped next to the muzzle. Which one hits the ground first?


THey hit at the same time.


Correct...kind of Big Grin
12 December 2015, 19:13
HPMaster
in a vacuum, with the down range level and the drop vertical....
12 December 2015, 19:43
Grenadier
....and is the target flying toward you or away from you and at what speed?




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12 December 2015, 20:05
Dulltool17
and at standard temperature and pressure.


Doug Wilhelmi
NRA Life Member

12 December 2015, 20:12
Blacktailer
quote:
Originally posted by BaxterB:
A bullet is fired parallel to the ground at the exact same time another is dropped next to the muzzle. Which one hits the ground first?

Depends on what planet and what velocity. Big Grin
If very little gravity, the bullet could be fired at escape velocity so it would never hit the ground. Also you need to factor in the curvature of the planet. space


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