Please Help!

16 December 2001, 01:21

Saeed

Please Help!

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I was about to load some test loads for our 338 Remington Ultra Mag with the Sierra 300 grain Match King bullet.

I started off with 80 grains of VVN 165, and Walter was watching.

Walter:"Why are you putting so little powder? You used more than a 100 grains with the other bullet"

Me:"This is a heavier bullet, so I have to put less powder."

Walter: "You mean the heavier the bullet you use, the less powder you have to use?"

Me: "Yes."

Walter: "So if you use a VERY heavy bullet, you would not need any powder at all?"

Now, I need some help to answer our genius.

Any answer will be gladly welcomed.

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www.accuratereloading.com

16 December 2001, 01:56

arkypete

Chuckle
Walter sounds like my ex wife.
Jim

16 December 2001, 01:58

p dog shooter

Tell walter that he can use a 500 gr bullet in his 338 then when he is charged. He can hit them over the head with it.

16 December 2001, 02:05

LE270

Tell him that his suggestion is true, but that the bullet would have to be very large, as large as an asteroid, at least 20 miles in diameter and 100 miles long, and then how would you carry it?

It's a crazy answer, but it should keep him puzzled and confused long enough that you can go about your work undisturbed for awhile.

[This message has been edited by LE270 (edited 12-15-2001).]

16 December 2001, 02:07

RIP

Just tell Walter that he should stick to factory ammo only in his guns, and to leave the reloads for your guns to you. Tell him that he is hopeless, and a very funny fellow, in a strange sort of way. Tell him he should not go near the reloading equipment or components.

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So many bovids! So little time and money!
RAB

16 December 2001, 02:37

<gone hunting>

only if he uses Uranium 215mag primers!

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born on a mountain, raised in a cave, hunting and fishing is all i crave!

16 December 2001, 02:47

Wachtel

A 338 Cap? Should fit in a very short action!

16 December 2001, 07:25

Jiri

gone: You mean new Uranium 235mag primers ?!

16 December 2001, 07:33

Canuck

Walter truly is one of a kind!

That reminds me of the blonde joke you told me a while ago. Remember, the one where the blonde couldn't figure out why you would bother to play golf at all if it was true that the better you were, the less you played?

Was Walter blonde before he turned grey?

Canuck

16 December 2001, 07:34

<1LoneWolf>

Saeed, I feel sorry for you......

It seems that Walter thinks like "me", that's bad. Really, really bad!

16 December 2001, 07:35

<Don G>

Saeed,

Tell him "Yes, you've got the right idea, but by the time the bullets get that big they are called spears!"

DaggaRon knows all about spears, Walter can come over here and get a lesson. Ron says first you have to piss of the boar. Walter can handle that with no effort , so he and Ron can each teach the other a lesson.

Don

16 December 2001, 12:11

RIP

Don G,
Now that is a scary thought!
Walter with a spear!
Not around me please!

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So many bovids! So little time and money!
RAB

16 December 2001, 14:55

<Don G>

Ron,

I thought you were adventurous?

Let's see, you hunt boar with a sharp stick, but you don't want to be around Walter when he has one.

It's nice to see you draw the line somewhere!

Don

16 December 2001, 18:47

<Deafdog>

Hi Saeed

Tell Walter that because of the Law of
Diminishing Returns , once the weight of the bullet exceedes a certain point (the point of diminishing returns)the bullet is too long to fit in the case.
That is very heavy bullets are so long that they will not fit in the rifle.
So technically Walter is correct as VERY heavy bullets will not chamber in a rifle and are only good for throwing,you do not need any powder.
The technique however for using very heavy projectiles is some what like tossing the caper.
One has to get very close to the animal in question and sort of tip the cartridge over so that it falls on their head.
Thus the use of VERY heavy projectiles is not recommended.

Regards
Deafdog

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http://deafdog.turboweb.net.au

16 December 2001, 20:13

<gone hunting>

quote:
Originally posted by Jiri:
gone: You mean new Uranium 235mag primers ?!

can't get the 235s in the states anymore so use 215s

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born on a mountain, raised in a cave, hunting and fishing is all i crave!

17 December 2001, 04:17

Rob1SG

Walter, is just trying to learn, just like the rest of us. Explain to him that as the weight of the bullet increases so does the recoil and that after a while no one could tolerate it. Finally he could do hunting the old way, with a BFR which all of our Forefathers used at one time or another. This may get you another question though, "What is a BFR" explain that as a Big Friggin Rock. Which if thrown or dropped will use no powder but will provide a very interesting Buff hunt.

17 December 2001, 04:44

D Humbarger

Is Walter a Texas Aggie by any chance?

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17 December 2001, 06:15

beemanbeme

How long did Walter work for the Clinton administration? He sounds kinda like slick willie trying to define "is".

17 December 2001, 06:31

<bobshawn>

Saeed __

I think I remember Walter. Ask him if he recalls the stupid fat kid who was his loader on a horse drawn, really big cross-bow that fired bolts the size of a broom stick.

Good shooting.

Robert