I bought some supposedly reloadable surplus ammo. It is boxer primed Korean (PS79)30'06. The primers I punched out seem smaller than the norm. I cant get a WWLR primer to even start seating. Whats up with this?
Mil spec brass has the primers crimped in. You need to run the pockets over a "primer pocket swedger" tool. Dillon has a stand alone unit, and RCBS offers a press mounted one.
Posts: 2124 | Location: Whittemore, MI, USA | Registered: 07 March 2002
I was under the impression that the swagging tools were for Berdan primed brass. There is only a few thousanths difference in the pocket. How does the RCBS tool work, I have seen the Dillon and know it works fine, but its expensive. Thanks, Ken
Ken, The RCBS model goes on the press . After you set it up you run the cases through and its just as fast as you can operate your press. I have used mine on .223 cases and am pleased with it. I find , to me at least , the primer pockets , after swaged seem just slightly tighter than commercial brass . I do like this method alot more than chamfering as this way (swaged) does not remove any metal .
Posts: 129 | Location: colorado | Registered: 27 February 2002
As Jim said, it's easy! I've used the RCBS swager for .308 & .223 and have had no problems. The one problem I did find was bending the decapping pin when pressing the crimped in primers. The pins are cheap though and the finished cases were worth the effort.
Are you anywhere near Tawas? I have a RCBS large rifle swedger unit here that we could setup in my press for you to run your brass through (mine is made for the old JR I use for seating, and may not fit your press).
Posts: 2124 | Location: Whittemore, MI, USA | Registered: 07 March 2002
Quote: I was under the impression that the swagging tools were for Berdan primed brass. Thanks, Ken
Your impression is incorrect! The swaging or primer pocket reaming process is to remove the crimp from military BOXER-type primer pockets, so you can put a new primer into the pocket! This is usuially necessary with military ammo, or the primer won't go in!
Berdan primers are a different proposition entirely! They have to be dug out with some kind of a punch device, or blown out with hydraulic pressure (water).
BigNate wrote: "The one problem I did find was bending the decapping pin when pressing the crimped in primers. The pins are cheap though and the finished cases were worth the effort."
I had this happen to me a few times! My cure was to use a drill bit, the size of the "large" decapping pins and drill my .223 decapping rod and expander ball out to accept the large decapping pin and I haven't had a problem since! I left the expander ball screwed onto the decapping rod and drilled through the the expander ball and the decapping rod, at the same time. NOTE: Make sure that the expander ball isn't on the rod so tight as to squeeze the two sides together (just enough to make sure that the two are aligned).
Posts: 454 | Location: Russell (way upstate), NY - USA | Registered: 11 July 2003
Thanks for all the replys, a lot of good info here. I didnt have any problem decapping, I used the separate Lee universal decapping die. Tailgunner, I live about 20 miles south of Kalkaska. I am going to pick up the RCBS swag tool, but thanks anyway.
I use a $6 41.5 degree countersink. After you get the old primer out, just give the opening of the pocket a couple of twirls, and your new primers will fit just fine. I've done this to a few hundred Lake City 223 cases.
Posts: 2281 | Location: Layton, UT USA | Registered: 09 February 2001
Quote: Thanks for all the replys, a lot of good info here. I didnt have any problem decapping, I used the separate Lee universal decapping die. Tailgunner, I live about 20 miles south of Kalkaska. I am going to pick up the RCBS swag tool, but thanks anyway.
Lee also makes a decapping tool specifically for militatry brass. I just recived mine a few days ago but havent tried it yet. It comes with a base for setting the case in and a special punch that I guess is supposed to be popped with a hammer. They garantee them against breakage. It was a whopping 2 dollars and some change.
Posts: 10189 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001