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I have been working up a load for my ar-15. Well, acctualy 2 different loads. One for plinking and one for Varmints. Right now my go to Varmint load is MILSURP brass, 24.3 grs of IMR4895,WSR primers, and 50 gr BlitzKings. That load cycles like a dream. I tried using IMR4198, but it will not cycle. Anyway, I am trying to find a plinker load. I guess the only way it would be cheaper than buying surplus is to find cheap bullets and load light on the powder. Does any body know a cheap plinkere load for AR-15. I am also thinking of switching to H335. How does H335 perform for Varmint bullets? | ||
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H-335 is a great powder for 52-53gr bullets in the 223. A while back I read somewhere that Les Baer used H-335 and 52gr Sierra's for his accuracy testing. I duplicated the load and crank it out on my Dillon 650 for plinking etc.. I can't tell much accuracy difference in this high volume load and my hand prepped loads with Lapua brass. -also, Brassman Brass has RP once fired brass for $20 a thousand. Cheap and you don't have to mess with the primer pocket.............DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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.223 VV, the reason IMR4198 won't cycle in your AR is because it burns too fast to deliver the necessary gas port pressure. You'll get short recoil. | |||
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DaMan, It is good to see you outside the Political forum. Would it work with a heavier bullet and crimp? | |||
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I don't crimp any rifle loads. Not even in my semi-autos. Not needed and bad for uniform bullet pull. Just use a slightly slower burning powder. H335 is a much better powder for the 50gr in the AR-15. It will deliver way more velocity than IMR4198 too. There are also other powders that will work well with the 50gr bullet. | |||
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Daman, Rather than starting a new thread on crimping, What about crimping magnum rounds? I started off crimping the .223 but after testing, I decided it was a complete waste of time as far as I am concerned. I am preparing to load some 7mm rem mag. Should I crimp? | |||
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No! But, then again .... you might want to crimp some rounds and then test them for accuracy and velocity against another sample group of uncrimped rounds to see for yourself. | |||
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Simple enough. What powder would you recomend for 150 gr game kings? And what about magnum primers, do I need them or are they hype? | |||
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A properly applied taper crimp will often improve accuracy in AR-15's...............DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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I don't shoot a 7mm Mag. But I'd guess a powder in the IMR-4831 range would be best. Yes. Use Mag primers. | |||
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20grs. RE7 with Rem FMJ. or any 55 grain bullet would work, I suppose. Not one failure with my son's ARs. Jay | |||
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I have gotten good results with H1000 for the 7 mm mag. As far as crimping, If you're loading rounds in a magazine and shooting a rifle with a heavy recoil, the bullets might move a little during recoil. My 7 mm mag is a Ruger #1 so it's now problem. I loaded some for my 30-06 and made sure all had the same measurement from datum to casehead. Then at the range, I would fire one and check each of the ones in the magazine to see if any change occurred. None did so I don't crimp for that round. I do crimp for my .44 mag Super Blackhawk. Back to the still. Spelling, I don't need no stinkin spelling The older I get, the better I was. | |||
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As you should, Billy Bob!  | |||
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I crimp my .44 as well. You should have seen me at the range trying to figure out mhy my clylinder would not revolve. | |||
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223VV, Can't help on the AR but I can give ya a tip or two on the 7. I would go with a slower than IMR4831 for the 150grn. The H1000 seemed to work better (for me) with heavier bullets,especially 175's. For a 150 to 160grn I have had some good results with the powders in the H4831/RE22/IMR7828 range. One that I am working with now is Hodgdon's new "RETUMBO." I like the fact that it is in the "extreme" offerings and is going to fill the case. I ALWAYS use magnum primers and I have never crimped. Can say if this is right or wrong, just what works for me. Smedley ______________________ Smedley  ______________________ From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.' B.H.Obullshitter ------------------------------------ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" Winston Churchill ------------------------------------ "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." Samuel Adams ------------------------------------ Facts are immaterial to liberals. Twisted perceptions however are invaluable. ------------------------------------ We Americans were tired of being thought of as dumb, by the rest of the world. So we went to the polls in November 2008 and removed all doubt.....let's not do it again in 2012 please. | |||
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Hey Ben, Two years ago I was messing with some of Seafire's Blue Dot Reduced Loads using 50gr Rem PLHPs. They shot quite well in my M7. But I also had a buddy using them in some AK-variant and they would not cycle the action either. We considered it an "advantage" because we didn't have to go chasing the cases around the ground. We just cycled the action by hand and were able to retain the case. So, we saw that as an advantage for us. --- My last two 7mmRemMags really shoot well with H1000 and 140, 145, 150 and 160gr bullets. I don't bother to crimp them. --- All the Magnum Revolver cartridges I load for get a good stout Roll Crimp right into the top of the Cannelure. Best of luck to you. | |||
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