What is the best way to trim new cased when the neck is sized to seat bullets and will not fit the trimming pilot?

Chances are if they are new cases they won't need trimming. Load and shoot, then trim. Bill T.

I don't use the pilot it seems back-ass-ward to me.
You size your case and it's perfect then you cram a pilot inside your case mouth and let it "waller" around.
I haven't used one in many many years.

Ted

How do you trim w/o pilot?

Your chamber is normally much longer than your brass. You probably can fire your cases many times before they need trimming and then mostly to square them up.

Buy an extra pilot of the right dia. or if one isn't offered buy one slightly larger and hone it down on a lath or drill press. get close and lube well. If you have access to a lath build a pilot. Been there done that. But unless you have case lenth trimm dies use a pilot.

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Originally posted by Fbull:
Ted

How do you trim w/o pilot?

Just like with a pilot...I just use the cutter with no pilot.

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Buy an extra pilot of the right dia. or if one isn't offered buy one slightly larger and hone it down on a lath or drill press.

What make and model trimmer do you have?

http://www.giraudtool.com/prod02.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGYLmHvKVd0

I bought one of these and never looked back. Bill T.

Get a L.E. Wilson trimmer. They don't use pilots at all. Holds the case in an abbreviated chamber(shorter than the case). The adjustable stop contacts the case head to set case length. You can see one at the link below.

http://www.sinclairintl.com

Click on online catalog, reloading equipment, case trimmers, then Wilson.
Scroll down, second item is the "bare bones" trimmer. Click on to the second page to see some handy setups with the trimmer. The micrometer head on the adjustable stop is a real time saver for fast accurate set ups.
The basic trimmer is $40. Case holders are $10 to $15 +/-.

muck

What billt said. Its an awesome machine

Sounds like you have the wrong pilot for the cases you are trimming. There are different pilots for the various calibers you wish to trim.

++1 on the Wilson trimmer. No pilots needed. A taper-bored cylinder holds the case centered and true without requiring a collet or pilot.

Andy

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Originally posted by BigJakeJ1s:
++1 on the Wilson trimmer. No pilots needed. A taper-bored cylinder holds the case centered and true without requiring a collet or pilot.

Andy

YEP!