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Trying to prime my 1st cases. Primers won't seat in cases or they cock. Everything looks lined up staight, allthe correct components on the press. It's a hornady L-n-L,Fed. 223 once fired case w/fed.205 primers. Whats going on?
 
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Never used your components, but are you using ex mil cases with the crimp ridge still on them?
 
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I agree with JAL. Also, did you clean the primer pockets? I always do this with every reloading. I use a primer pocket "uniformer", but a cleaning tool will do just as well. I am not familiar with the Fed 205 primers, but I assume they are "small rifle"?
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They are fed. premium V-shok factory loads. I thought it looked like a bur on the primer pocket so I deburred it just a little maybe not enough. Could these possibly have a crimp? Should the primer go in fairly easy?
 
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Yes I cleaned the pockets and they are sm. rifle.
 
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welcome alan,
are you sure your useing the small primer seating plunger? there are 2 sizes......large for large and magnum,
and small for small rifle.
a small rifle primer will get crocked in a large primer plunger, this can happen with a hand-held primer tool or with your press priming your shells like i think you are. if all else fails keep calm and read.... no offence meant ! regards and good luck
 
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Yes I am using the small plunger,It,s the same size as the primer. I made sure I double check that.
 
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ok good....factory loads have no crimp what soever.primers will only seat easy if your king-kong or the pocket is expanded from way to much pressure , thats not the cause here.i'd say they should seat with medium- hard pressure.. you could wate and call hornady tomorrow? it be vise in this case...i use rcbs presses and hand-primers,hornady mite have a new system out i know nothing about?
hang in there and call them tomorrow!
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The most recent Federal 223 ammo I had had crimped primere, needed reaming..
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I'll add that you shouldn't ream a primer pocket when you can use a pocket swager instead.

a primer pocket swager is relatively inexpensive
and does a much more consistant job of re-forming the pockets.

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Commercial .223 ammo with crimped in primers????? He should be able to punch the old primer out and put a new one in w/o doing anything. Not cleaning, nor reaming, nor uniforming, nor anything. I've been doing it for years.
Try some CCI small rifle primers. I learned the other day for some reason there is quite a bit of difference amongst the various brands and types of small rifle primers.
 
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I believe you have an equipment problem. I would check with Hornady and see if they can help you spot something incorrect in the setup or with their equipment.


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Just a personal opinion. Forget press mounted priming tools. Spend the few extra $$$ and get a Lee Auto Prime (in fact get two while you are at it - set up one for small and the other for large primers).
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Alan:
First of all, I have never used nor owned any Hornady reloading equipment. Not to say it's bad stuff, just that I'm not familiar with it. I would agree with the comments about getting and using a hand priming tool and the one I always use is the RCBS unit. At one time I used a Lee hand primer but got rid of it simply because I didn't want the hassle of keeping separate shell holders. I too have tried using the priming arms on my press (RCBS Ammo Master) but you just don't have the "feel" of the primer being seated. Also, I always uniform my primer pockets with a drill powered uniformer I got from Sinclair. As I recall, they have them for both large rifle & small rifle primer pockets. Very fast & easy. Just a few things for you to consider. Bear in Fairbanks


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Commercial .223 ammo with crimped in primers?????

Yep, you got it! I picked up about 200 at the ramge, sure as shit crimped primer pockets, I thought it was some special run for LEO or something. Federal 223 rem
Alan take the tip of your pocket knife and cut a bevel on the edge of the primer pocket, it may take a couple passes around to give it a clean beveled edge, then try and prime it, if it works you've found the problem. Lyman makes a primer pocket crimp remover tool that works very well, I run mine in the drill press, it works so well I sold my C&H primer pocket swager for Lg and Small pockets, if you plan on loading a lot of 223 either will be a good investment for use on the mil surp brass that around. Let us know if they are crimped. Scot
 
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Hey guys, I just tried to primer some remington factory cases and the primer went right in. I guess the feds most be crimped. Thanks for all the advice You'll be hearing from me alot. I want to learn this right,no room for guessing.
 
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