Has anyone expiremented with this concept yet? I was thinking about a 150 -165 bullet for deer/antelope. What the heck I have the gun might as well use it! What results have you had? Loads? Velocity? Performance on game? Thanx

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"If guns are outlawed...only outlaws will have guns!

Pop,

You might like to have a look at our data for the 30/404, which I think is very close to the 300 RUM.

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

killed a nice ky. whitetail last year with 165 gameking with 92 gr. rl 22 at 3350 been shooting 150 gamekings this spring with 96.5 gr rl22 at 3590. 2 inch groups at 300 yards. 700BDLSS.

Uh oh.................

I'm starting to drool.............

I feel a new rifle coming on......

Somebody stop me!!! (NOT!!!!)

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I am tinkering with a load using XMR 4350 in the high 70ish range using Nosler BT's 125g for hogging this summer..........got it moving about 3400ish avg......can cover 3 shot with a dime @100yds.....guns a Rem LSS 26" barrel

POP I have tried 165gr Speer GS, Balistic tips and Nosler J4. Powders prefered are RL 25 and H1000. These all shoot in the 3375 to 3450 fps range out of a 27" gain twist barrel. best accuracy is with balistic tips.
I have only tried 150gr partition bullets with Rl 22 and H4831. I never got the accuracy but they were shooting at 3525fps with no signs of pressure.

Light bullets ,

I have loaded up some really light bulets to hunt varmints with. Starke 115 grn red prarrie bullets. they move out nicley at 3900 fps so far and still working on that load data. grouping nicley so far, no preasure signs. I would try 150 hornady SST it looks like a nice thin skin skinned game bullet.

Now were talking reciepes for ruined barrels in 500 rounds and a lot of bloodshot jellied up deer meat....

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

Ray,

Hi. If you would please, clarify by what you meant in the previous post. Particularly the "jellied up meat" part. I can undertand this with a Starke, and perhaps a Hornady SST that wasn't made for 3500 fps, but Gerard of GS Custom has a different opinion concerning well constructed bullets at high velocity. In regards to meat damage, he has some convincing pictures on his website that one may want to look at.

Thanks!

If I may present a few bits here--

By "jellied meat" I believe that Ray is talking about the terminal ballistics. I am not too sure about the ruined barrel, but it is a fact that the more hot rounds you push through a bore, the more the throat or leade wears out, and it will do so quickly unless you wait for the barrel to completely cool off between rounds. I don't know too many people who are willing to wait a full 5 minutes between shots.

As for the jelly effect, it the same thing that happens when a live target is hit by a hyper-velocity round. The hydrostatic shock created by the round's passage through flesh would be tremendous. Remember the reason that bullets work so well: Liquid cannot be compressed. Therefore, when the bullet passes through a liquid medium, the liquid will displace with the same velocity as the projectile. Frequently, the projectile will de-stabilize and tumble. This is the reason that the 5.56x45 NATO round, particularly the M193 ball round is so devastating, when fired from a 1-12 barrel--the slightest interference with the bullet will make it tumble.

I would say that any light skinned animal hit with a .30 soft point round moving at a MV of 3900 fps will almost explode. There won't be jelly, just a red mist.

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