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I've not tried it yet for this caliber, but I've read somewhere that RL 19 is an ideal powder for loading the 30/06. Is that true? Can anyone here report on results from RL 19 in the 30/06? I did try RL 19 with light bullets (100 gr. and less) in a 25/06. The results were not very good, but then I never got consistently good results with anything in that particular rifle. [This message has been edited by LE270 (edited 11-29-2001).] | ||
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For the two calibers you mentioned, there are a lot better powders... | |||
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I tried it with the 180 gr. Hornady Spire Points in a long-throated Mark X and was very disappointed. Accuracy wasn't bad but I couldn't even make 2600 fps with a book maximum load. I got better results with IMR 4350. | |||
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Thanks to all of you for your replies. I've had trouble finding a local store that has RL 19 in stock. Judging from what you've told me, I should suspend the effort to find this powder as there does not seem to be any advantage to using it in the 30/06. | |||
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| <ML> |
Hi, why should RL19 not well suited for the .30-06?Load density will be great and (much)more than 820m/s with 180grs no problem! If its hard to get H4350 might be a solution. Markus | ||
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ricciardelli: You know nothing of what you speak. Any handloader who's given these numbers a good run with the 06 definitely knows different. 22 is the real sleeper in an 06 with 180's, easily exceeding 2800 in 22" barrels w/o excessive pressure. Factor in the good metering qualities and these numbers are hard to beat. 4350 is THE powder for yrs with the 06 in labs for testing. 19 will match that level of accuracy. | |||
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| <MontanaMarine> |
I've been developing some 30/06 loads with RL-19 and RL-22. My rifle has a 26" Douglas #7 barrel. I am using Sierra 190gr HPBT MatchKing moly-coated bullets. Fed 210 primers. Here are my results to date. (100 yard accuracy) These loads are put up in fire-formed cases neck sized with Lee collet die RL-19 58.5 grains: MV 2685, ES 56, SD 13. 59 grains: MV 2746, ES 59, SD 11.9. 59.5 grains: MV 2766, ES 69, SD 12.5. 60 grains: MV unknown, started raining, took down chrono (guesstimate 2800). No signs of excess pressure. Bullets seated .03 into the lands. I will try 60.5 and 61 grains next. plenty of room in the case. RL-22 60.5 grains: MV 2771, ES 34, SD 7 61.5 grains: MV 2808, ES 50, SD 16.8 No pressure signs, but the case is about as full as it can get. NOTE: THESE LOADS EXCEED THE MANUALS FOR NON-COATED BULLETS. But are completely safe in my rifle using MOLY-COATED bullets. MM | ||
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I tried both pwoders w/ the 180gr NP in my son's M77/22" bbl. I got slightly better ccuracy & velocity w/ Rl22, 2750fps & right @ 1". Good luck! | |||
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| <BigBob> |
I've tried a lot of powders in about 15 different rifles. Most of them were mine but 6 or 7 belonged to friends. R-19 was one of those tried, and found wanting. The most consistent powder of those tested was H-4350. 59.0 grains of H-4350, CCI #BR 2, Winchester cases culled for weight at 184.0 grains +/- .4 grains with necks turned to .013" thickness, primer pockets uniformed and flash holes deburred and a 150 grain Nosler partition bullets fired a pre-64 Win M-70 std. resulted in a 5 shot group of .291" center/center, vel.=2974fps, extreme spread=5.7fps, Std. Dev.=3.0fps, MAD=2.2fps. This is excellent results on their own but there is a fringe benefit. The new Hodgdon extruded powders have been engineered with "EXTREME TECHNOLOGY". These powders arenot sensitive to temperature changes. One headaches of hunters has been the change of zero due to changes from summer zeroing to winter hunting season. These powders due to this lack of sensitivity maintain the same zero from hot to cold. I've verified this with several rifles over the last three years. So if your not nailed into a powder, give the H-4350 a try. ------------------ | ||
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MM: Was looking at those loads and then I saw the moly part. OK. Did you run anything like this prior to using the moly? Be interesting to see what actual effect it has. I use moly on hard cast bullets with speed, just starting- but has potential. | |||
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| <MontanaMarine> |
Aladin, I have only used the 190 gr moly coated bullets in this barrel. Here is a link to Alliant loading data. They list max loads for 190 Sierra (presumably noncoated)as follows: RL-19, 58 grains, 2720 fps RL-22, 60 grains, 2755 fps (24" bbl) http://recipes.alliantpowder.com/rg.taf?_function=centerfire&guntypeID=2&step=1 My loads have shown no signs of high pressure whatsoever. I think the moly definitely reduces friction in the initial movement of the bullet into the lands. I started my development with bullets .02 off the lands and ignition was less uniform as were groups. I expect I will be able to achieve 2850 fps with the RL-19 before running out of room or hitting pressure signs. I am hoping to do that with sub MOA groups. I will post results when I get there. MM | ||
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| <pigman> |
I use 60 grains of reloader 19 with a Hornady 165 grain boat tail spire point and get half inch groups at 100 yards consistently out of Browning abolt with the boss set at 2. I haven't had time to experiment with the boss to see if tighter groups are possible. I've shot one deer with this load and the results were devastating to the deer. | ||
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Go back to the orginal post... he used Rel 19 in a 25-06... It is not the powder for the 25-06, In the 25-06 Rel 22 and 25 are tops. | |||
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quote: You're right. I used RL 19 in the 25/06 because a loading manual (the Nosler one, if I remember correctly) stated that they had gotten best accuracy with that powder and a light bullet -- I think it was the 85 grain Ballistic Tip -- in the 25/06. But my results didn't confirm their claim. H4350 and IMR or H 4831 gave me better results. I didn't try RL 22 in that rifle. | |||
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| <Reloader66> |
The 30-06 most compatible powder bullet combinations. 125 to 150 gr. bullets. IMR4064, IMR4350, Rel-19. 165 to 180 gr. bullets IMR4350, Rel-19. It should be noted that there are exceptions to the rule on any given cartridge, as to what powder and bullet it will like best. You should try the most compatible powders first. should they not give the accuracy you want try others. Powders that nearly fill the case are most often the best choice. always follow your reloading manuals directions as to charge weight, especially the maximum loads listed. You will most often find the accuracy load at the starting load to medium weight powder charges. My particular 30-06 rifle likes IMR4895 and Rel-15 powder best, and is the exception to the rule. | ||
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