Winchester Power-Point Bullets

How many of you have used them with great results on deer-sized game?

I think I heard it somewhere, that Nosler is now manufacturing these bullets for Winchester; Is there any truth to this rumor???

Thanks...

Power points are cheap plain jane soft point bullets. However, they work great on deer sized game. They work better than the premium bullets in a lot of instances.

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Originally posted by Rx7dryver:
Power points are cheap plain jane soft point bullets. However, they work great on deer sized game.

Yup...I've used them.....No problem at all!

Those Winchester Power-point bullets are pretty darned good stuff.

A friend took them to Africa because they shot the best of anything he tried in his 300 WSM.
He killed all sorts of plains game with them.

I doubt seriously that Nosler is making those bullets for Winchester. Nosler and Winchester work together on lots of stuff, but that is not one of them.

sorry no deer but the local populaton of pigs and donkeys hate them
using my .308 with 42.5g of ar2208/varget below is some 180grain win power points i colected.


the top left is from a donkey brord side chest shot at 300 mtrs sat off side just under the skin weighed 132.7 grains.
right top is a donkey quartering away thru chest and sat bulging under the skin at the side of the neck. weight 132.1 grains
bottom is my favourite. head shot buff at 40 mtrs entered just above the right eye and i found it in the spine about 3 vertabre back from the skull. weight 142.1 grains
the buff (my first)

greg

suppose i should mention that i like them
greg

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I think I heard it somewhere, that Nosler is now manufacturing these bullets for Winchester;

If you'll listen, you can hear just about anything in shooting circles. It is possible, in fact probable, that WW could outsource some of their bullets to other manufacturers. I doubt Nosler being the source of any "Power Point"-style bullets as their equipment is designed to produce a somewhat different bullet.

To my knowledge, Nosler has produced their Solid Base lead tipped bullet for some ammunition manufacturers (Federal comes to mind), but it is usually identified as a Nosler bullet (why not take advantage of the Nosler reputation if you're using their bullets?) Nosler also has produced a plain cup-and-core .22 caliber bullet in 50 and 55 grain for ammunition manufacturers (again, I heard that it was produced for an Australian ammunition loader, but don't take that to the bank).

But let me reiterate, I doubt that the age-old proprietary Power Point is produced outside of Winchester's own dies. THere is always the possibility that they have leased the tooling to a sub who is making the actual bullets; that sub COULD even be Nosler, but I doubt it as Nosler's capacity is pretty well absorbed making its own proprietary designs.

Thank you for all the replies....

I will use my Power-Points with confidence from now on....

It just proves that bullet placement is everything on a hunt...

Thanks to all...

and

SC, thank you for spelling that out for me...
I appreciate it!

Roland

i should have added this one
win power point in 150grain out of a marlin 30 30 32.5 grains ar2208/varget.
chest shot the boar in the middle and exited to hit the piglet behind, i am holding the bullet that i dug out of the piglets spine.
greg

they have done the job on two 200# pigs and a nice whitetail. all in the boiler room, pigs went right down right away, the deer ran 50 feet and fell over. .30-'06, 150-gr.

I have some .224 bullet that I will be testing in my AR with gel.

I saw a test on them years ago where they ran bullets into some animal remains. They shot many makes and models into just fatty tissue and also into bone and then tissue. The power point wound up beating some of the "premiums". It opened in the loose tissue and still held together banging into the bones.
I have had better luck with hornady bullets for accuracy than the power points but.....if my gun liked the PP I would use it for almost anything up to and including elk.

I bought 300 of the 150 gr. 7mm bulk packs of the Winchester Power Points for use in my 7x57s and .280 Remington. I sectioned a couple and the jackets were substantial, giving me the impression that this would be a decent all round bullet in my rifles.
Imagine my shock when four normally very accurate rifles acted like shotguns with those bullets. I then weighed a sample of 100 bulets and the variation from the nominal 150 gr. owas plus or minus two full grains. They weighed from 148 gr. to 152 gr. so it's no wonder accuracy was lacking.
I also bought several hundred of the .30 caliber Power Points for use in a .308, but haven't loaded any or weighed any yet. I'm almost afraid to see what the results will be.
So the question remains; did I just get a bad lot of bullets or are all bulk Power Points that bad?
Paul B.

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Imagine my shock when four normally very accurate rifles acted like shotguns with those bullets. I then weighed a sample of 100 bulets and the variation from the nominal 150 gr. owas plus or minus two full grains. They weighed from 148 gr. to 152 gr. so it's no wonder accuracy was lacking.

Yeah, my experience with many bulk bullets from both Win and Rem. The bullets are made on machinery that turns out hundreds of thousands of bullets in the machine's lifetime. Unfortuneately, the factories run the machines until they are worn well out of tolerance and bullet consistency suffers badly. I had a batch of Rems on which the placement of the cannelure was so inconsistent that crimping was impossible. Another batch of Win .22/55sp wouldn't shoot a reasonable group in any of my half-dozen CF .22's, so I gave them to a friend. His experience was the same.

While there is nothing wrong with the design of the Win PP, there is often something wrong with its manufacture.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:

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Imagine my shock when four normally very accurate rifles acted like shotguns with those bullets. I then weighed a sample of 100 bulets and the variation from the nominal 150 gr. owas plus or minus two full grains. They weighed from 148 gr. to 152 gr. so it's no wonder accuracy was lacking.

Yeah, my experience with many bulk bullets from both Win and Rem. The bullets are made on machinery that turns out hundreds of thousands of bullets in the machine's lifetime. Unfortuneately, the factories run the machines until they are worn well out of tolerance and bullet consistency suffers badly. I had a batch of Rems on which the placement of the cannelure was so inconsistent that crimping was impossible. Another batch of Win .22/55sp wouldn't shoot a reasonable group in any of my half-dozen CF .22's, so I gave them to a friend. His experience was the same.

While there is nothing wrong with the design of the Win PP, there is often something wrong with its manufacture.

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Stonecreek and PaulB, ...

thank you for putting all of this in perspective for me!

I just ordered a 1000 rounds of .270Win Power-Points....I guess I should weigh them out as I go, but I see that getting old real fast...Maybe I'll weigh them out for load development and stuff and once that's achieved...I'll load up the rest and just try for goood hunting accuracy...What do you think???

funny you have noted the weight changing so much? i weighed the 400 or so i have used and they were .8 grains total difference. the worst (lightest) was a damaged tip. not a real big difference, but not a big survey eather.
lb, i would be weighing them then batching them into groups. load them in those groups. consistancy is the key.
greg

I guess I should weigh them out as I go, but I see that getting old real fast...

sorry if you want to load say 50 rounds just weight them untill you get 50 within say .2 grains. make sence?
greg

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Originally posted by greghud:
I guess I should weigh them out as I go, but I see that getting old real fast...

sorry if you want to load say 50 rounds just weight them untill you get 50 within say .2 grains. make sence?
greg

I think that sounds good enough for hunting accuracy...I'll try that for awhile????