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I was bored and browsing and came across this from www.loadswap.com Does it sound not right to you or is it me? Can anyone run quickload on this one just for fun?????



Cartridge: 444 Marlin

Bullet Weight: 180 grains

Date: 2002-03-31

Username: tunnstan

Bullet Type: Jacketed

Bullet Manufacturer: Sierra

Nose Profile: JHC

Base: FB

Bullet Dia. .4295 grains

BHN:

Powder: Hodgdon H110

Charge Weight: 55.0 grains

Primer: CCI 350

Brass: Remington-new

Trim Length: 2.215"

C.O.L.: 2.548"

Velocity: 3041 fps

Extreme Spread: 32 fps

Accuracy: 1.5 @ 85 yards

Temperature: 68 degrees F

Pressure: High

Comments:

Marlin 444P 18.5" barrel. 93%Humidity,no wind a.m. GA. Recoil feels like factory 240gr. 60gr H110 3196 fps makes sticky cartridge ejection, noticable case expansion. Chrony Model F-1

 
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Okay....

I did not find H-110 a suitable powder for the .444 Marlin with any bullet weight, in either rifle or handgun.

Load from a disk does not recommend H-110.

Here is the data from Quick Load:

**** Input data: Date: 20-May-2004 Time: 15:18:42
Cartridge................. = .444 Marlin
Projectile type........... = .429, 180, Sierra JHC 8600 with flatbase

Max.avg.pressure(Piezo CIP)= 51488 psi Shot start / init pressure = 2176 psi
Projectile weight (gr)= 180 Groove caliber (in)= 0.430
Length of cartridge (in)= 2.548 Length of case (in)= 2.215
Case capacity(Grains Water)= 69.00 Length of projectile (in)= 0.583
Length of barrel (in)= 18.500
**** Values calculated:
Seating depth (in)= 0.250 Volume displaced (gn H2O)= 9.18
Comb.chamber volume(gn H2O)= 59.82 Projectile travel (in)= 16.535
**** Input data:
Propellant type........... = Hodgdon H110
Charge weight..........(gr)= 55.0 Load density......(g/cu.cm)= 0.918
Heat of Explosion (cal/lb)= 445279 Ratio of spec. heats cp/cv = 1.220
Solid density (gr/cu.in)= 409.7 Weighting factor.......... = 0.8
Burning rate factor Ba(1/s)= 0.794 Pro-/degressivity factor a = 5.217
Burning limit ......... z1 = 0.3 Combust.Chamber Vb(ft�)= 1.371435E-4
Factor.................. b = 1.833 X-S.Area of Bore A(ft�)= 9.959076E-4
Bulk density (gr/cu.in)= 247.3 Projectile mass mp (lb)= 2.571385E-2
Loading ratio (%)= 93.8 Projectile travel x(ft)= 1.377923E+0

**** Results calculated:
Maximum pressure ........ = 56254 psi Way of projectile at Pmax = 0.92 in
Muzzle velocity ......Ve = 2884 fps Muzzle pressure ......Pe = 5823 psi
Project. energy at muzzle = 3325 ft.lbs Fraction of powder burnt = 99.9 %
Projectile travel time from 10% Pmax to muzzle = .8 ms

D A N G E R: Load exceeds Maximum Average Pressure ! DO NOT USE THIS LOAD !
 
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And here is the data for his 60 grain load...

**** Input data: Date: 20-May-2004 Time: 15:24:44
Cartridge................. = .444 Marlin
Projectile type........... = .429, 180, Sierra JHC 8600 with flatbase

Max.avg.pressure(Piezo CIP)= 51488 psi Shot start / init pressure = 2176 psi
Projectile weight (gr)= 180 Groove caliber (in)= 0.430
Length of cartridge (in)= 2.548 Length of case (in)= 2.215
Case capacity(Grains Water)= 69.00 Length of projectile (in)= 0.583
Length of barrel (in)= 18.500
**** Values calculated:
Seating depth (in)= 0.250 Volume displaced (gn H2O)= 9.18
Comb.chamber volume(gn H2O)= 59.82 Projectile travel (in)= 16.535
**** Input data:
Propellant type........... = Hodgdon H110
Charge weight..........(gr)= 60.0 Load density......(g/cu.cm)= 1.001
Heat of Explosion (cal/lb)= 445279 Ratio of spec. heats cp/cv = 1.220
Solid density (gr/cu.in)= 409.7 Weighting factor.......... = 0.8
Burning rate factor Ba(1/s)= 0.794 Pro-/degressivity factor a = 5.217
Burning limit ......... z1 = 0.3 Combust.Chamber Vb(ft�)= 1.371435E-4
Factor.................. b = 1.833 X-S.Area of Bore A(ft�)= 9.959076E-4
Bulk density (gr/cu.in)= 247.3 Projectile mass mp (lb)= 2.571385E-2
Loading ratio (%)= 102.4 Projectile travel x(ft)= 1.377923E+0

**** Results calculated:
Maximum pressure ........ = 75738 psi Way of projectile at Pmax = 0.78 in
Muzzle velocity ......Ve = 3104 fps Muzzle pressure ......Pe = 5981 psi
Project. energy at muzzle = 3852 ft.lbs Fraction of powder burnt = 100 %
Projectile travel time from 10% Pmax to muzzle = .71 ms

D A N G E R: Load exceeds Maximum Average Pressure ! DO NOT USE THIS LOAD !
 
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Thought so...Thanx Steve!
 
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Pressure: High



I guess so!
 
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It just goes to show you boys and gals....Always second guess the loads you pick up from the web!
 
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