I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of Accubonds to the local stores. I have seen other shooters mention shooting them and I want to know where I can get some. Anybody have some info? I tried 225 SST's in 338WM and they shot well but the terminal test I did (dry newspaper at 100 yards)gave me a mangled jacket with a bit of lead attached. Penetration was 13 inches at 2700 fps MV. I want to see how the Accubond compares. By the way, same test with factory FailSafe in 338 was 18 inches... and bullet had picture perfect, four petal expansion.

I'm ready as well. I'm getting impatient. Nosler is taking out full page adds in the gun rags on these things...but a couple of months ago Midway said they'd be available in February. Then April. Now June 30th! If I don't get them by then I will not have enough time for load developement and practice with the load to hunt with this fall.

Oh well, maybe I'll have to use Matchkings one more year. I know they'll kill a deer dead and I know where they hit at range.

Dammit Nosler, get off your asses and make me my bullets!

Peppe LeBoom,
it might not be completely fair to compare the Accubond to the SST.
Apples to apples would probably mean comparing the SST to the Balistic Tip.
pples to apples would also mean comparing Accubond to Hornady's new Interbond.
Montero

Montero, I see what you mean about the SST. It was my first try with them. Good value though. Picked up a box of 100 for what 20 something FailSafes run. Try not to rouse the ire of the Ballistic Tip zealots. Don't get me wrong, my BT loads have killed a deer (too small to brag about)but I am lookin to kill a moose. And I am hoping that one of these death ray, high ballistic coefficient bullets will not go BT on me at bullwinkle bustin speed. I know the BT is the Lightning of Zeus to some and they would remind me of it's speed limit. But I want a single long range and short range bullet(better BC than a Partition). So, if I should compare to the Interbond then show me where I can get that. I think they are only in the magazines as well. Is the Scirocco BT-ish?

Peppe LeBoom,
I have found the Sciroccos to be extremely accurate. I have also found the bonding between the core and the jacket to work perfectly, since remanent weight of three bullets I have recovered from game has been 86% minimum.
I have found them to be very soft, and expand rapidly into a huge frontal diameter which obviously plays much against penetration.
They produce a very wide, but shallow, expansion cavity. On the typical brodside shot in the lungs they kill faster than lightning but I would avoid hitting the shoulder as I am not confident that on such a shot the bullet would make it into the chest cavity, unless I were clearly over gunned.
Regards,
Montero

PeppeLaBoom, I don't think you need to get too caught-up in looking for a bullet with ultra-high BC's. If you plug the BC's of an average BC bullet vs. a really high BC into a ballistic program, there really isn't that much difference in trajectory within the ranges that you will be shooting. I see people getting all worked up over the very high BC of a certain bullet but it really doesn't make much differnce out to 400 yards.

If you can get a Barnes bullet to shoot accurately enough in your rifle, that is the bullet that would give you what you want - "...I want a single long range and short range bullet(better BC than a Partition)"

If you just don't like Barnes (many don't) then you shouldn't be afraid to use the Swift A-frame or the Nosler Partition. Like I say, just plug-in the BC's into a ballistic program and you'll see that there really isn't that much of an advantage of the really high BC bullets over the BC of a Partition.

(just my 2-cents)

I shoot alot farther than 400 yards on a regular basis, so the BC is an important factor, in wind drift especially, trajectory is flatter and offers an edge in ranging error situation.

Someone is sending me some 200gr Accubonds to test, they should be here in a week or two. They will get tested out to 1000 yards, and hopefully used on a bear here shortly as well.

I've wondered why Nosler chose to launch the Accubond in .308 cal with a 200 grs? Why a "heavy for caliber" weight?

The 140 grs .277 makes a lot of sense - middle of the road, covers both the 130 and the 150 grs bases. The 160 grs in 7 mm is also fairly heavy for its caliber, but at least the 160 grs is pretty popular in .284 cal.

But the 200 grs .308 cal? I look at what experience has shown with the Sciroccos. Very large expansion, most people agree they are probably best used in non-magnum calibers. I expect the Accubonds to be similar. But then the 200 grs makes even less sense??

Confused - mike

I got a flyer from Graf & Sons they have the Barnes triple shock X, Nosler accubond and Hornady interbonds in stock.

mikeinal, are you sure they are in stock or just in the catalog? Natchez has both the Nosler and Hornady new bullets in their latest catalog, but the web site says they're still not in stock. The Hornadys are listed as on sale even! Midway has had all 3 listed on their web site too, but with variable availability dates.

I think hornadays bullet interbond is supposed to come out next month (march) I wonder why it has taken so long for a bullet like this to come out isn't this sort of think kinda a no brainer. or better yet why whern't the poly tip bullets made like this in the first place.

Gentlemen,

I too am looking forward to the release of the Accubond bullet. I've taken some game with ballistic tips in my 7mm RM, and the performance was devastating, but so was the meat damage. I really do like the SST's, as they tend to be incredibly accurate, and are also very reasonably priced.

I think I will probably have to experiment with all of them, including the new Interbond from Hornady. If it's as accurate as the SST's, it will be a winner for sure.

I think the 200 gr. .308 bullet will be for those who like to load magnum cartridges. We had a client last year shooting a .30-378 with 150 gr. BT's, and I believe he actually shot a springbok in half with it. The heavier loading will penetrate better and be a bit easier on the meat, I hope.

Joel Slate
Slate & Associates, LLC
www.slatesafaris.com

7mm Rem Mag Page www.slatesafaris.com/7mm.htm

Hmmm, I just got my order from Cabelas, with some 165 .308 interbond Hornadys in it. I also got some Norma 300 wsm brass. They will get assembled in a few minutes and maybe fired this weekend,(if the warming trend continues)! I'm not worried about Nozlers accu-bond as yet. If the SST interbond doesn't shoot accurately, then maybe.

Peppe, DRY newspaper? Thats like shooting into a log or tree! Even wet newsprint is much denser than flesh. I use water filled milk jugs and catch the bullet in a box of rags.

I tried to buy AccuBonds from Graf, and they are not in yet.

Your right I called too they aint got em. Sorry