Here is a couple of foxes I shot with my cz .22 Hornet (45 gr sierra behind 11 gr of win 296 in rem case and rem 7 1/2 primer). I also shot a third fox twice with my Hornet but he managed to get into the den before I could recover him.

Good shooting! Your fox look a bit larger than what we have here in Fl.

You ever try Li'l Gun in your Hornet? Good stuff, makes bullets go hast in Hornet. You can get near 3000 fps with 45 gr bullet and Li'l Gun.

Dan

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Very nice! There are some foxes and coyotes here I'd like to exterminate as well but they do not show themselves in daylight.

Ann, get yourself a red filter for a flashlight and pan the night sky about 5* or so ablove the horizon. Won't scare the critters, will make their eyes glow. Bullet will extinguish the glow. A partner will help. Squeaker calls may help, don't overdo it. Just arouse curiosity, don't talk to 'em. Sorta like a low cut dress in a bar....

Dan

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Dan, you read my mind. I just ordered one of those varmint scope lights and a bipod, they should be here tomorrow!

Dan,

These foxes are still really pups as well so they get a tad bigger....our foxes are of British decent I beleive, where do your originate from ??

I have not tried little gun as it is not availble in our country, but I have heard great things about it.

Thanks Ann.....give the predator call and a spotlight a go as suggested.

PC, too bad about Li'l Gun, you may find that H110 or AA1680 will boost velocities a bit as well, hope you can snag one or the other. I've always had a Hornet nearby, great cartridge for varmints. Crats too.

Origins, well that's a little confusing. The familiy name springs from England but part of the gene pool was constructed in Europe from most if not all of the countries. Including(cough choke-France)Germany, the Netherlands etc, etc. My discontented forebearers first shat on this great land in the 1680's from what I understand, somewhere in the vicinity of Charleston, SC. or maybe Savannah, GA. Because the King was a forward thinking kind of guy and could see the future, he had the wisdom to grant one of the fellows in the family tree the second permit to manufacture firearms in the Colonies. Since that name has slipped into obscurity I surmise that he was better at shootin' bull than building guns...

One common thread weaves thru the family history, we all hate crats! Unless they have been well cooked of course.

Dan

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Anything ;daofhg;ofrench is worth shooting.
Aspen, if ya need a hunting pardner, zip me a pm. Always looking for a good time on trigger. Wouldn't mind claiming one for another wall mount anyhow. Jeff

Hello PC. Thanks for that picture and congratulations on the foxes. I think our red foxes were actually imported from Britain and our greys are native. Can you advise where roughly the picture was taken, what the fence is, generally about your fox shooting, etc.? Never been to Australia but always favorably impressed. My father, still living and doing well, liked everything he came in contact with there in 1943, except mutton, after leaving Guadalcanal. Regards, ned

The photo was taken in Western Victoria aproximately 2.5 hrs drive from Victorias major city Melbourne, near a little town called Ararat and hour past Ballarat. It used to be the family farm up until 12 months ago........we sold it as my father has got the cancer.

In any case it feels like home.

No problems shooting foxes in Australia as they are considered pests and they kill a lot of our native fauna as well as killing a lot of lambs in lambing season. Occasionaly our government offers bountys for there scalps or tails, although the dick head green groups winged about the last bounty 24 months ago until it was scrapped, oh well let the foxes breed up and kill our native wildlife

or lay heaps of baits and acheive kill every other thing besides foxes

nice shooting pc i use H110 in my hornet 11.5grn behind 40 sierra blitz king, foxes dont like that load,
the foxes you have over there in aus seem to be a bit thinner skinned than those in uk for some reason, not that ive been over there yet some day ?, but a friend of mines been to aus a nd he shot a few foxes and said they were nothing like the little red darlings back home ?

I think our foxes ar a bit more scraggy than yours probably due to the harsher environment. In outback N.S.W they are often quite thin skinned and there coats are full of bindy eye. Your English foxes would have nice thick winter coats all year round I would think.

sure do pc if you ever get over here ill take you out for some, of our foxes with pleasure

c1 if I ever get over to the UK I will look you up !!

Pc onya mate.nice pelts I've been using a .22 hornet now for more years than I'd like to remember & I recon its the best fox stopper since caned beer!I tried a.17 years ago whilst shooting on the Nullabour Plain but went back to the hornet. I'm back at Roo shooting these days but am thinkin of given the foxes a go this season as it is not,uncommon to have 12 to 15 foxes hangin round when I'm gutting out and I'm getting sick of the cook complainen about foxes in our home paddock

DOK,

the hornet really is a great round and it is under appreciated....the fact that they charge the same amount of $$ for factory hornet rounds as say 22/250 rounds does not help it's cause either. You need to be a reloader to reap the benfits.

Your right on the money there PC !!! only draw back is their finiky little devils to load.I've found that 9.4grns of AR2205 behind a 40grn pill has the same effect on foxes as hiiting with a hammer at 150mtrs!!!!! with very little pelt damage

I was wondering because i dont know,do fox live in a area like a field and never leave?I think coyotes move in a area,live awhile,kill/eat everything,then move on?Is this correct?And doesnt the fox mainly eat mice,moles and rats?I thought austrailia had a bad rodent/rabbit problem after watching national geographic on T.V.?I dont think i would kill anything that would help knock those things back.The show i saw,the rats were in the grain barn by the millions!
Like i said,i really dont know much about the fox or coyote.Do they just get overpopulated like everything else?I never see any,except dead on the side of the road.We have a season on them and they can only be taken with 22rimfire or shotgun,legally in my state,shoot one with anything else and you get fined/go to jail...........Its ok to trap one and shoot him in the headwith a 12ga.shotgun/point blank range,#2shot, but use a bigger/different caliber rifle ,like a 22-250 and you are in big trouble,isnt that some stupid crap?How do these game departments come up with some of these laws?

AUSTRALIA used to suffer from a rabbit problem (unless like me you shot them for a living) but with the introduction of myxamatosis & carlici viuris their numbers are at a all time low! Foxes used to be shot for their skins & it was a very profitable way to earn ones keep. the market collapsed in about 1986-7 and never recovered the foxes on the other hand did .Ask any sheep farmer in auz his/her opion of foxes & you will find them to be enemy No1.Although our gov has seen fit to ban many types of firearm to most shooters here in auz there is no season (apart from open on foxes) though in my case much to my wifes protests(as we are geting more & more round our property) I choose not to shoot Bait or trap until winter due to the skins still having some value! I keep telling her its like having money in the bank

I think the fur is beautiful.I have just barely missed high with a recurve bow,but never connected.I would love to have a full mount of one and also a big bobcat/lynx!That would be nice addition to trophy room.My taxidermist even had a solid black coyote that was shot about 50 miles east of me,that looked like a wolf!He said that color was rare.Man i would like to have one of those also.I tried calling a few times but never had any luck with the dying rabbit call.I cant get excited about a 22lr.anyway and just use them for squirrel.I think i would need a 22magnum for a fox at the least?Maybe one day i will get lucky and take one,they are the king of small game!Good shooting and congrateulations on those nice red foxes!!!!Good Luck!!!

I have a recent shoulder mount of a gray fox that I like very much. Mouth closed, ears relaxed, nose sniffing. The old Krag does not leave much else for mounting, especially at 15 feet. I won't claim it tried to bite me though! The taxidermist swears he can do a similar CAT shoulder mount using a small bobcat form. I am setting up my new dangerous game rifle, CZ .222 right now for a prowling lield lion. Hoping for an old black/white one. ned

N.S., what would you think about a Hip Mount? Wouldn't that be the Crat's Ass!?

Dan

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I once mounted a hippie. The dismount was pretty good too. I thought a lot of her at the time. I'm sure many of us could say the same, eh? N.S.

Neva thought of gettin a fox mounted Pig maybe (MOTHER IN LAW more than just a passing thought!) or may be a good goats head as we've got our fair share of em here in the Flinders