...FYI, for those members of the crat patrol with 1)an attached forward observer or 2)forward observer capabilities or 3) for these matters anyone with a bloody cell phone, please note the following:

The town hall in Waldo, Ohio has a pair of 75mm anti-tank guns facing west, covering Main Street and the western approaches.

The Legion hall in Cardington, Ohio has a 155mm howitzer facing south, covering Park Street, the southern approaches, and probably all of southern Morrow County.

(I will have to investigate this next listing) A park in Marion, Ohio used to have a .50" caliber quad mount remote control anti-aricraft piece, don't know where the remote control was located but Marion never suffered an aerial crat bombardment while it was there.

Funny that you mention Waldo, OH. Just north of Stark, Fl lies the town of Waldo, FL. They don't have a war memorial with artillery pieces of the period, but are listed by AAA as one of two official speed traps in the Nation. A little bit further north on SR 301 is the community of Lawtey, the other of the two speed traps. It is the result of inbreeding I suspect. Damnable thing about it is that I never see any roadkill crats in those two towns, not sure if it's because of the slow speeds or big appetites...

Now Starke is another kind of pony, complete with traffic jams, and an old WWI piece of field artillery. Looks to have about a 3" bore, not sure what horsepower it is. Oh, and it's the place where bad boyz and gurls meet their maker, either on Old Sparky or by injection. I think they have the choice, but am not sure. They even have roadkill deer in Starke, not to mention "reformed" felons. It leads me to believe there is a causal relationship between the local progressive thinking index and crat populations.

Or maybe it's the Good Ol' Boys, shine, and 4WD pickups on Friday night...

I do think the availability of war tested artillery pieces is an unexplored venue however, and will have to consult with Tick and Billy Bob on the possibilities.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.Local.Artillery

The riffraff that hangs out here may be interested to know that SARCO currently has a pair of Russian 57mm howitzers for sale...


HTRN

Is that artillery or anti-aircraft artillery(AAA)? Reason I ask is that most AAA guns cannot be depressed below the horizon and that makes it difficult to plink crats in front of the Dollar General Store. They do traverse quickly, so if somebody will give 'em a heave you might do okay on the fly.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.IHate.AAnAAA

Howitzers are the indirect fire type of weapon. Easily depressed and can fire canister beehive or just plain old HE common with a PD fuze.

Dan,

The Germany's, 88m/m, Flak 18 AA, was the dread of Allied tankers. It was one hell of an anti-tank gun. Crats would be NO PROBLEMO for this ack-ack.

Hog Killer

Well, yes that's true, but if the Dollar General is only a short toss from the AAA I'd like the option of minus elevation travel of at least 10* in case the dreaded crats should charge. They are short, AAA is tall, it's a geometry thing the gun designers never envisioned.

On a dismal note, there is apparently a subversive element in the 'hood, for in addition to the Blanch Epiphany of a few nights back I have seen 3 new alien crats in as many days. How could anyone be so callous regarding the birds and squill?

Got to go load another Blanchette round.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.DeathFrom.HighPlaces

I grew up in ohio,,I fondly remember crawling up and over more than one howitzer,,,taking turns on who could walk the farthest up the barrel before they fell off While in the back of my mind really wishing we had at least a blank to light off in the thing But anyway the things are dotted all over the landscape of ohio,,,,It is'nt a v.f.w. if there isn't one planted by the front door At least it seems by ohioans standards.I never realised though,,,that the things are on lease and the v.f.w.'s pay an annual rent to the govt. to have the thing parked there If they gotta pay rent,,,,the govt. oughta give them a hundred or so rounds in the name of homeland security.And while i'm pissing,,,,If any of you that "owns" a dcm garand,,,look at the fine print that is on your original shipping papers,,You only bought a lease,,,and the u.s.a deems the right to take it back in the time of need.If they start recalling garands,,,,at that time we must be in a heapload of shit.Thinkng again of homeland security,,they should supply every dcm garand borrower a couple of ammo cans of 06 ammo to help the cause Clay

Indiana may be a little more upscale than Ohio. As I recall, there is an F-100 on a stick (steel post) visible from Coliseum Boulevard in Fort Wayne. Although there is in Ohio an F-4 Phantom pulling stick duty at one of the gates of Wright-Patterson AFB. Probably no rental fees on that one.
Zoom zoom.

Ahem,





Cannons for sale


Toolmaker

Sure one of those is exactly what Bubba Joe would love to hang behind the truck when meeting the boys for some shine and crat-shooting a friday evening?

I guess I start getting a grip on American Culture!

Regards,
Martin

Pvt. N. S. Sherlock attended a regional skirmish this past weekend, where our battery A and B mortar teams came in 1st and 2nd at l00 yards with their 12 pound mortars. The pvt.'s squad "b" came in second place for musket. No cats attended. Durn! General info is at www.n-ssa.org. if you have an intrest in things civilians can do with outdated weaponry. This a shooting game, not dress-up.

Pvt. N.S.,

What kind of report is this, you did not properly illustrate, said report. Please rectify this situation. (ie- post some pictures)

I think that we all would like to see these things that go BOOM.

Hog Killer

Toolmaker,,I sent those pics. and a really nice letter to santa via e-mail a few months ago. I guess he does'nt do e-mail Have fun!!!!Clay

Hog killer,,,I had a wonderfull time today playing with aluminun foil and toilet bowl cleaner,,stuffed into a tightly closed soda[pop] bottles today,,,it was kinda warm today and had the best results as of yet ,,,in fact for once i'm looking forward to warmer temps.,,,very convienient time delay with the reaction,,,could be very usefull.Sorry no pics. you're gonna have to try it on your own,,,,Clay

I made my own noise maker.



It damages things too. This is 1/4" plate steel @ 100yds.




Here is the exit.




I like this a lot better than drain cleaner.

Hog Killer

Hello HK. Click the link in the post & then click mortar, cannon, etc on the list on the left of the home page. There are a few pictures. Did ya try yours with cannister. We did. N.S.

Yep,

Two different loads:

1 lb. #4 buck shot

72 - 50cal. RB

Hog Killer

Hk,,the bowl cleaner and foil were pissing away the last bit of the "work"day. just recived two 3"bore x30" long hyd.cylinders that were rejected for a rebuild,,The wheels are turning,Thinking of a nice light weight mortar,,,Whats your opinion,,,pneumatic,,,or black powder?Clay

Clay,

There is only one answer for that question, Black Powder. I also have a mortar, made from some sch 20 (I think ) 2 3/8' tubing. Any way a soda can will just slide down the tube. That is, a nearly 2 #, concrete filled soda can. A 1/2 oz of BP will normally send it 200 yds. Find some thing cheap for projectiles, like tin can etc. that can be weighted. The closer to bore size the better.

You caan actually watch the soda can in flight, from my tube. It will goo up about as far as it will go down range. Kind of neat.

If you would like some extra tips on building this thing PM me.

Hog Killer

Clay, what kind of cleaner have you found works the best. The days up here are getting longer, warmer and more boring! derf

Clay/HK, et al., there is a poster on Graybeard's cannon forum who is a commercial mortar manufacturer, named "Cat Whisperer" who posts frequently. There is a sticky, links and quite a few intresting posts too. Our CW mortars have recessed powder chambers behind the rounded bottom of the breech so that the ball you drop in does not set off the charge by impact. We take particular care that the powder is in the recess only and follow a strict safety protocol. If I was going to get a personal mortar I would get a beer can mortar for ease and cost and consistency of projectile management. Shoot even the small soda cans, regulars, tallboys, and fill with gravel, sheetrock mud, cement, plaster, lead, etc. Weight and consistency is critical for accuracy, as is bore windage. All our balls are numbered and we keep track as they each shoot a little differently. Yeah, I guess you could stuff a crat in a sabot too. Our nationals are in Winchester in May and October If any of you folks would to sightsee. Gatling demo too. N.S.

Older post on fun w/ a howitzer.
Read the whole thing,,,,what a hoot?
Dude fires 144 punkin balls at once, hits buck deer 6 times.
http://www.buckstix.com/howitzer.htm

Hk and Ned,,Thanks for the info.Derf,,I've had good success with this stuff made by nyco,super toilet bowl cleaner,it starts smoking when you flip up the cap,,I've seen it get the nastiest crapper sparkly clean with little effort. It also eats concrete, ,,McMaster-carr sells it.I've found it better to loosely roll the foil rather than ball it up tightly.Have fun!!Clay www.mcmaster.com

For a good time put 4' of 6" PVC in the ground(for moral support), fuse already installed. Add 1# of Black Powder, 5# of white flower(self rising) and mebbe a crat if you have one handy.

Make sure the pipe is pointed up in the air BTW. Light fuse, hope neighbors have a sense of humor. Hope the neighbors you don't like are down wind. Have a white 4th of July!

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.Appalling.WhiteClouds

Dan,,I think thats what they shoot through the cannons at the gettysburg re enactments,,But they wrap the flour in tinfoil. One fine spring my brother came to visit,,it was a sunday. The neighbor was in the middle of a major remodel,,living elsewhere,,and told the carpenters it was ok to work on sunday without consulting the other nieghbors So my brother and I are trying to have a conversation of that fine sunday morning on my deck,,over air nailers and circular saws,,,,when I realised I had'nt shown him my then new italian o/u or the 12ga. bird busters[an m80 stuffed into a 12ga.hull over a few grains of powder] I got the gun and a couple of busters and went out on the deck,,They dropped into the tubes with a satisfying thwupthwup,,the barrels closed with a nice snap and holding it at the waist I judged maby a 30 deg angle over the remodellers roof.My brother asked if I should really be doing this,to which I replyed I don't really give a damn,,,bloop,bloop the charges flew over the house and blew up in a pair of very loud booms my brother said damn,,,those things are pretty loud,,,yep,,But there was no more noise of air nailers and circular saws filling the air,,and a few minutes after,,there were 3 vans going down the drive at a good clip They never worked there on sunday again,,Clay

Clay, I like the approach applied to the roofers and such. Most aren't a lot brighter than crats.

I shoulda said you're supposed to leave the flour in the bag. People see you pullin' a really pissed off floured crat out of the ground they're gonna think your weird.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.BombsBursting.InAir

Thanks Dan,,,I kinda read that into your post,,thinking that 5# bag was just the right size,,,,after wifie killed a steak into leather for the umpteenth time I told her the kitchen was my domain and she was fired from cooking and demoted to cleaning,,,,getting better all the time,,,Clay www.andtherocketsredglare.com

HogKiller's favorite projectiles for crat control:

Yep,

The skinny round is 458n Lott, and the 1 1/2" proj.

Hog Killer

Mebbe the one on the left is really the .458 Little? The other one could be found in the ladies "entertainment" section of Victoria Secret I'm guessing.

Dan

Pres., TYHC

www.CratsN.Cats