See the bullet on the left? It is what I paper patch for my 77/44, 300 grains, .422" diameter w/ .26" meplat. They are pretty bullets. Damn hog attacked one today, led with the right shoulder and finally stopped it under the skin just forward of the left ham. 'Bout 22" of penetration near as I can figure. What was left is on the right.


Bottom view:



I got 296.5 grains of lead back, but it sure is a mess. Dunno how I'm gonna use it again...

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.Damn.Hogs!

Damn nuicense having to shoot all the nice bullets into animals. Makes no end of a mess.

Regards,
Marterius

Dan ol' son, you have the wrong attitude about piggies. With out a nice size pig, you would not know how well your pp bullets work. No crat would ever stop one of those lovely bullets so that you could annalize the expantion and weight retention. Besides, one good oinker make for many good meals. The crat would not serve more that 2-3, at tha Golden Chopstixs II.

Hog Killer

Dan, no pic o' the pig?

When is dinner?

2 eggs over easy,,hold the potatoes,,,Plenty of bacon please!!!Clay

Where's the pic. of the pig?
Can your mold make hollow points. Some of them out of dead soft might make a hee of a mess out of Ol' Tom.
338vt

Where is the photo of the hog Dan?
Or have you fed it to the gators already?
Bit smelly to use for crat bait around the house I guess.
I tried 300gr Hornady XTP in my .44 Mag on a trip years ago but found with them I had too much penetration with not enough expansion.
Looks like you hav ethe perfect formula there.
i went back to the 240 gr XTP and got faster kills on hogs than the same 300gr. The 300 gr had a much thicker jacket and i couldn't drive them as fast as the 240gr.
APB

Sorry, no porker pic. But I will tell a little story on myself.

I was still hunting per ususal, spring creek bottom, or what passes for bottoms hereabouts...bottoms bein' as high as the ridges and such. Deep in the swamp amidst cypress, tupelo and the odd oak tree older that Moses. Water flowin' by without a sound, the woods quiet in a light rain. Was movin' like smoke along the border of a 5 year old(more or less) clear cut, just inside the swamp. Light breeze out of the north northeast.

Had a grey fox trot by on a deer trail about 20' to my left...an armored-diller following maybe 10 minutes later. Considered a ballistic test on that one but didn't...safety back on, slow step and pivot, high step over log, soundless...flowing...Zen trance ON. 60*...humidity, well...all of it, starting to develope a dew which is something I can do when it's 40* while still hunting...

90* turn to the left in the border, shortcut thru the clearing then back into the margin...a pile-driver woodpecker screams and flies off into the darknss of the swamp, insulted by my presence scant feet away when I shake his tree a little...few more steps and I put my hand on a 5" thick sapling and...

...it is rotten, dead, and breaks off quietly at ground level, leaving me holding a 12' log upright in my right hand. I ponder this briefly, not a big thing really...try leaning it against an adjacent tree but it won't quite balance...wanting to roll free and crash the silence. I decided to lay it down, looked back down to ground level to see where I could put it...there are 4 hogs but 30 yards away, moving directly toward me on the trail upon which I stand.

Now perhaps it is BECAUSE I still hunt that I spend moments in odd contortions, even is compromising circumstance, and because of that I shoot sometimes in odd ways. I've shot deer one handed with rifles twice, a bobcrat too, but that one had the barrel under my right arm as the shot was behind me...I'd not really considered the likelyhood of the position I found myself in however...gun in one hand, dead rotten tree in the other...

I raised the gun, distance closed to 20 yards...little piggies were steppin' right along don't ya know...tried to shoulder it with the butt on the outside of the tree that was now in the hollow of my right shoulder...that ain't gonna work...move it quickly to the inside, and that ain't gonna do the trick either. Distance down to 15 yards...lead pig is the largest though they are all relatively small...range of 40 to perhaps 90# I think...put the butt ON the log...kinda like an extra long recoil pad...squeeze head and hairy eyeball into place in a round about way, red dot finding lead pig, settling on the point of its shoulder as it takes a small jog to my right...could not have asked for a better aspect for a bullet test...about 25 feet away...BOOM...flop...dead. Three little piggies squeal in terror, abandoning their erstwhile leader in flight, helter skelter into the darkness squealing...snorting...the boom rolls thru the ancient cypress, a shred of echo in the falling rain and fading light. I let the dead tree fall, looked around briefly then back at my vanquished quarry. "Take that ya fat bastard!" I thought.

Reason for no pic...no camera with me in the rain. Did this with premeditation...had to take my Stainless Synthetic for the same reason, not Ravage...time for that later...porky didn't bleed a drop from the shot, a common event with their kind if you don't get a thru and thru. And I don't haul innards out of the woods...slice and dice as she says. Lungs were pretty much pudding, right shoulder shattered at the top...bullet entered precisely at the point of the shoulder hitting bone on contact. 5 ribs also shattered, liver cut almost in half. The little boar weren't as tough as he led his friends to believe. We left as darkness settled on the swamp...that is to say most of us did, for the most part.

So, still hunting still works, dead rotten trees will break off in your hand if you touch them sometimes, and they make good recoil pads too. Paper patch bullets work really well from all appearances and the buffet starts tomorrow at noon...

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.First.Blood

PS: 338vt, they are swaged not cast, but I got me some cupped base versions that I guess if loaded backwards would pretty much spread a crat from here to Tampa.

If I send you my address , could you send me a ham ? LOL

Looks like perfict expansion .

Johnch

Well Dan, at least post a picture of your PP 44 loads. Never seen PP done with 44 Mag before. Sounds like its a winner though.

Hog Killer

Good show!

Dan,

I thought you may have learned from the picture I posted on the other thread.

As I am demonstrating in the picture, the clue to killing hogs, of any type, is to make them believe you are friendly. Then, when their confidence in you is established, you bite them in the ear as shown below. This will eventually kill the hog due to wound infection, and you will thus save on bullets. It takes some time for them to die, but there's no need to rush things in life!

It's best to bite on the ear, but a tail or other appendage will do too:

Eric, now I know how to catch 'em bare handed too, but it ain't something I do regular...you ever try that with a rhino by the way? They're sorta the same color and all...

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.LookinFerA.HogProofBullet

Haven't tried a rhino. I prefer pork.

OK then. BTW, if you DO try one of those rhino things don't use the .45-70. It ain't a DGR cartridge.


Courtesy of our friend Muffin. Posted in the Bullet making forum BTW.

Danno thats one helluva nice story! Made me feel as if I was right there with you!

Looks like that round will work fine if it's ever called upon again for swine stoppage!

Porkers are tasty critters when prepared right but may tend to thicken the blood a smidge if partaken in to often.
So use him in moderation and be sure to share with them lovable lizzards of yours.

Erik glad to see your stickin around the forum with us!
Also glad to see you have a taste for a little whacky humor and crat whackin!!

When all else fails you can always come to the small game "crat whackin" forum for a decent laugh.

Later!

Thanks for the write up Dan. Well written enough to feel like I watched it. Nate

OK Dan, where is chapter 2? The one where you use your 416 Rigby. Have to "used" it yet?

Hog Killer

Dan, that was a beautiful story! Made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! Thanks for sharing!

Marko

Special Vs. Hogzilla-ette? OMG, you hate hogs too doncha? Well, perhaps I will, but don't expect a picture of a bullet to go with the tale. I might put down a canvas behind it though, take a step into the world of art...

Dan

Pres., TYHC

http://www.BigBoresN.ObnoxiousGame*


* OGR - Obnoxious Game Rifle