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Originally posted by Atkinson:
None of this surprises me at all, bullets kill sometimes good and sometimes not so good, Ive noticed one thing however if the first shot is perfect, it usually kills, may run a long ways, but if it is misplaced and the animal fills up with adrenaline it can be much harder to kill with follow up shots, Ive seen this particularly on DG such as Lion, Hippo, Buffalo, but also on some PG and the smallest of Coues deer..Coues and whitetail seem tougher to kill than Mule Deer has been my experience as a rule, but with exceptions..For one thing the whitetail are more high strung than a lazy old mule deer as a rule..A generalization only..

All that said the carbine is a miserable killer, the worst caliber I ever used on big game, I would much prefer a 22 L.R. HP..

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Originally posted by L. Rivard:
Per dpcd's low opinion of the 30 carbine, it was one I shared, not based on first hand experience but on paper ballistics and the opinion of Phil Sharp in one of his books. I expressed that opinion at a mititary rifle benchrest match quite a few years ago. A fellow competitor, Hartly Bush, saddly now deceased, took great exception to my opinion. Hartly had been a forward artillery observer during the retaking of the Phillipines, and had carried the Carbine. He said the little gun "made Japs go dead just fine". I will defer to actual experience.