This is a re-mount of a buck I took a few years ago while bowhunting in Kansas. The original mount was posed with a high nose. I liked the pose but it just did not display this bucks rack well............ so I bought another cape and wha-la!
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A fine set of horns...

HEck of a buck--my bow bucks pale significantly in comparison to yours. Great job.

I guess I have to be the bad guy here, bo-n-aro, but such a beautiful set of antlers deserves a better taxidermist.

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Originally posted by bo-n-aro:
This is a re-mount of a buck I took a few years ago while bowhunting in Kansas. The original mount was posed with a high nose. I liked the pose but it just did not display this bucks rack well............ so I bought another cape and wha-la!
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WOW, I have looked at this mount and was trying to figure what is out of place. It looks as if the deer has a dewlap or a lot of excess skin hanging on the face. I have never seen a deer with a dewlap. Looks like a beard, sorry but I don't like it and would make my taxidermist re due it. Also it that the backing of the pedestal I see, that should be hidden better.

Not trying to put down the mount, but I don't think I would be proud to display that in my trophy room. JMHO

That is a really really nice set of antlers. I agree with the others though, that mount just doesn't look right. Perhaps the third time will be the charm.

If by dewlap you are referring to the loose skin hanging under the jaw, that's what happens to bucks when they get to old age. Our Tx bucks develop that loose skin around 6.5 or 7.5 years of age. Just wish I could find one that old this season.

Nice try Dustoff. I just mounted an enclosed impoundment deer that was 16 years old and no dewlap. There was SOME skin hanging there, just like my three chins, but it didn't form a wattle. There are many more issues at hand, however.

It's not unusual for the skin to hang at the jawline on some deer , I think age probably has something to do with it, but not all old bucks have this trait. Some deer just have looser skin than others, up close details like this differ greatly between individuals of a specie.

george--not saying they all have it, but our S. Tx busters usually do.

Thanx Dustoff. I guess that's what happens when big deer can't grow big bodies to match the antlers. LOL

Sorry Jerry Huffaker, but the deer you show and the mounted deer don't quit look the same. The re-mounted deer looks like it has both jaws full of chewing tobacco.

I have see a lot of old deer and never in my 35 years of hunting have I seen one, except in the pic you just posted.

There just seems to be a few things on the mount that just don't look right or appealing. Like I said, it is just my opinion.

Dang!!......... some of y'all are brutal!!
I would not expect anything else from Georgie however. He is famous on many forums for his wcomments. I guess his mama never taught him "if you dont have anything good to say dont say anything"??
You guys are real good to take one photo from one angle and send this mount to the trash can!
It is a new form on the market and the first time I used it. While it did have somewhat of an "adamn's apple" the cape is what had some really long hair on and along the lower jaw. Not only was it long, but it grew in different directions. When I was fleshing this cape I noticed it but decided it was what the good Lord made it. I agree, it looks a bit strange, but the skin is placed in the correct area. I had never seen one like it before but I have seen white tail deer with very long hair down the back of the neck that looked just as weird. I had a mule deer that had a very large spiral patch of hair on the side of his neck that looked very strange, but so be it.
This new form is a wall pedestal and Redhawk1, the back is fully covered with leather and trimmed with black cording. Again, you sure have a good eye to see something and commenting on something that does not show in the photo???? If you would not be proud on taking a whitetail like this with a bow..... you da man!! I would love to see your trophy room.
To those that like it, thanks! Here is another photo for you so have some fun!!
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bo-n-aro, the rack is great and I would love to shoot one with my bow that big. It is the mount that has me bewildered.

As far as what I see in your fist photo, look half way down the deer on the left side, there is a white line there, it just looks like some of the backing?
The second picture looks better than the first one you posted.

But like I said, it is an impressive rack.

Redhawk1,
You have made my point for me, No two deer look exactly alike, you are correct the deer that I posted doesn't look like the mount. As I stated in my post, deer will differ greatly in the way they look, they aren't all cut out of a mold, just because you have been looking at Whitetails from a deerstand for 35 yrs doesn't mean one can't look that way. Faces on all animals vary a great deal, broader forheads, longer jawline, narrower nosepad. It's perfectly alright if you think the head looks odd, everyone has an opinion, all I'm saying is, just because you don't like it doesn't mean the deer didn't look like that when he was alive. They are ALL different.

OK I can live with that.

Ah yes, the internet is such a kind a gentle place. 'Tis a wonder more people don't post pictures of their pride and joy ...

Thanks for posting the picture of your buck. The first thing I thought when I saw it was that this deer had a flap of skin just like the old wide 8 point on my ranch that we never can seem to shoot.

No, not every deer will develop it, but it is a trait of some older deer.

Very nice deer!

I actually had no idea you'd mounted it, but this all goes back to my favorite saying that no momma ever gave birth to an ugly baby. I wouldn't post any of my personal mounts here because I know just what that means when someone else looks at it. I understand I'm prejudiced on my own mounts and others should be as well. Still, if you put a billboard of the Bud Girls up, someone is going to find fault in one of them. As I said, I mounted a 16 year old that had a bit of a jowl, but I didn't dare mount it that way. I have them with cycsts, broken jaws, tumors and shot holes, but I remove them in a mount I want to look at. Deer skin is very flexible and supple. Hide paste can make a hide fit by "packing". I want my deer with the "classic" look. Just MY OPINION.

I'm some what surprized at your statment George, You have stressed in many posts on the internet forums, reference use, anatomical accuracy, live reference, etc.. Now you are saying you won't mount a deer the way is was live, because you don't like the way it looks? So it's ok to not mount them anatomically correct? sometimes? I'm not saying your right or wrong, just wondering where you stand on this.

Jerry, I have a 13 pointer out in the shop that scores 164 (takes a beating on one the 7 point side because of tine length) and a 24 inch spread. It had one eye blinded by an antler of another deer that had gone under the top lip and out the eye socket. The wound was infected and had a softball sized pus pocket between the mouth and the eye. Now would you please send me a picture of a deer you've mounted "anatomically correct" that looked like that and tell me just how proudly you'd display it in your trophy room? My customer quickly agreed with me that I should mount it where it would look like a NORMAL TYPICAL whitetail. I would have been hesitant to mount it any other way.

The original comments about the deer had nothing to do with injuries or damage to the skin. It was about the hanging skin under the jaw.

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Originally posted by Jerry Huffaker:
The original comments about the deer had nothing to do with injuries or damage to the skin. It was about the hanging skin under the jaw.

Well remember that was not the original hide, so just how anatomically correct is his deer???

When I get a deer mounted, I want it to look eye appealing. If you say a dewlap is not a common thing, why would I want it. Now I have seen deer with a mane but it is not as unappealing as a bunch of skin hanging off its chin and neck. Sorry but I just don't like it. JMHO

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I want my deer with the "classic" look. Just MY OPINION.

George, what is the "classic look". Please don't say full upright, both ears forward.

Redhawk1,
Your right, since he used a different cape then it would be difficult to know what would be the correct look. This is a discussion that goes on between taxidermists all the time at competitions. It can go on forever. It really just comes down to differing opinions. What I do is, mount the deer the way the customer wants it to look. In the end all that matters is how YOU want it to look, since your the one that's paying for it, and your going to look at it every day. We can get too carried away with exact details, when the overall appearance of a head and the satisfaction of the customer are what really matters. I think it's fine that you don't like the way the deer looks, the point I meant to make was that it's not necessarily wrong for it to be that way. I like them either way, but I can understand if your not used to seeing it how that might look a lttle out of place or odd to you.

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That's hardly "classic" to me though it was when I started in the 1950's. I'm a McKenzie 6500 person who lets the antlers tell me how the ears go unless the customer tells me specifically. To me, most of the new forms depict what I consider "classic".