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This should be interesting..... | |||
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Kind of a narrow-minded point of view. Sometimes you have no choice but go with a guide. If you want to hunt Africa, Canada, Europe, Australia etc... and you are not from there you will hire a guide. If you don't, you won't hunt. Period. I've hunted Mule Deer, Whitetails, Blacktails, Elk, Black Bear, Pronghorn Antelope, Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Goat in the USA successfully without a guide. Some of these are mounted and some are not. All are trophies in my mind. I've also hunted Africa 5 times, and Canada twice. I've taken a lot of different types of game in these locations as well. Again, some are mounted and some are not. All however are trophies in my mind. Trophies are a physical reminder of the hunt. A memory if you will. They only have value to the individual that took the animal. The conditions of the taking are also important. For you to belittle these trophies is to show total ignorance about what they represent. I have made many friends hunting around the world and some of these are guides. I have learned things from them I never would have otherwise. Life is a collection of memories and experience. If you want to experience hunting the African savannah, you will do so while in the company of a PH. If you want to hunt moose, sheep, caribou etc... in the Canadian north, you will be in the company of a guide. Doesn't matter if you agree with it, that is just the way it is. Oh and I'll put my hunting skills up against anybody's any day, including yours. Offense is taken! Mac | |||
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You are creating offense but whatever... Don't Have pictures, but in the last 13 years, since I was 10, I have killed on my own. (or with my father) 3 Elk 1 Bear 1 Shiras Moose A bunch of Mule Deer and Whitetail, plus a bunch of Coyotes half of them tracked half of them calling. Plus this past year I passed on a 6x6 bull elk, a 5x5 bull elk, a bunch of cow elk, 17 DIFFERENT Bears, and about 10 bucks. Thats not counting all of the bird hunting this year either. I have killed a bunch of other animals, but since they were on guided hunts I would guess it doesn't mean shit to you. So snowshoeing for 6 miles chasing dogs Mt. Lion hunting doesn't count. And I guess horseback riding 10 miles and then hiking another 5 miles just trying to put a stalk on some caribou doesn't count, Trying to track Gemsbock in 85 Degree heat for I don't know how many miles doesn't count...... Most of the people on the Forums are Damn good hunters. I have been to Africa and killed many of the "glorified animals," if you are not in good shape or can't keep quiet while stalking, you aren't going to get an animal on a guided hunt or by yourself. I have learned a bunch going on guided hunts about tracking, skinning, and stalking. Sneaking up on a squirrel is a hell of a lot easier than putting a stalk on a elephant or even tracking them.... Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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Put up or shut up! Where are your picture? Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war; That this foul deed shall smell above the earth With carrion men, groaning for burial. | |||
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Hey NCBuckfever, It's a hell of a lot easier to get help with your reloading if you don't piss people off. Got any pictures....Have you ever been to Africa to know what its like, or been on a guided hunt, I have never seen animals tied up in the Bob Marshall Wilderness. Mink and Wall Tents don't go together. Especially when you are sleeping in the Wall Tent. DRSS .470 & .500 | |||
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Put this clown down as a troll guys. He obviously doesn't know anything and doesn't care to learn anything either. I don't believe posting to this guy is worth my time, but then I guess when all you have to show for your hunting experience is a couple little southeast whitetails and maybe some small game, you might be a little jealous of guys that have done more. Personally I never found whitetails to be that challenging. I'm in Va right now and I could probably kill a dozen or more in a season if I wanted to. This guy has obviously never been anywhere or done any hunting outside his own backyard. Mac | |||
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 This isn't worth my time!!!!  "America's Meat - - - SPAM" As always, Good Hunting!!! Widowmaker416 | |||
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Actually, I do take offense to this. I don't have huge black bears here in Ohio so I have to hunt where they are, and even though I have the option of a self guided hunt, for example, in AK, this takes planning. I have to have a guide where I go in Canada, plus, I enjoy it. Secondly, many folks aren't loaded with trophies in their home state, or even if they know someone somewhere else, so they have to go where they are. So, it is easier to pay someone who has done the homework. I've used guides for black bears only, everything else I did on my own. What do you consider a trophy? And even though you mean "no offense" I can promise you this, your post basically is an open door and you came out swingin. Many times hunters really are just hiring a guide to access land. Quite frankly, I've met some guides that are less of hunters than I am. Oh, I forgot, I did go on a traded hunt in NE this past August for Antelope. That was a "guided" hunt but no money exchanged. I think it is sad that you're so shallow. Let's see your pictures of all of your trophies. And by the way, just because someone hires a guide or outfitter and paid them money, it doesn't mean the hunter kills something everytime they go out, plus, even if they do, it doesn't always make the "book" if that's what you mean by trophy. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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Widowmaker is sooo right... This isn't worth the time. We are being baited for the enjoyment of a person who either cannot or will not understand true hunting. Let it be, and walk away. Ignorance is bliss, so he must be one happy dude!  Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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I'm with Widowmaker! | |||
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nc, You, sir, are a rabble rouser. You gonna' tell me that hunting deer from a stand in a corn field is different from African hunting? I have logged my time in deer stands, and you are full of it. As far as guides go, you don't hunt as a foreigner in Africa without a guide. After that, what and how you hunt and the ethics of it is pretty much up to you. In terms of difficulty, deer stands versus African hunting, Africa is more demanding, but getting a trophy quality animal in either venue is tough. But don't you think for a minute because it was a guided hunt it was an easy hunt. Kudude | |||
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Guys don't waste your time on this one. | |||
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I am with you all. I have been here long enough to recognize trolling when I see it. Either Mr ncbuckfever is a troll or he has the social skills of a troll. Neither will do him any good, but it will not do us any good either if we enter the dance with him. ----------------------- A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition. - R. Kipling | |||
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As my Granddaddy told me long ago, "Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody's got one." ncbuckfever, many of us here have moved on from making Whitetail hunting our primary prey. I mean after you have been doing it a while, it gets pretty damn second nature, much like squirrel hunting. | |||
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ncbuckfever My response to you is that if you only came to trophy room forum to ridicule 'real hunters,' you are in the wrong place! The pictures that I personally posted are of my first trip to Africa where I did have a guide, but everything was stalked and hunted on foot in the open bush. All my other trophies were from hunting on my own in different parts of the US and Canada, which I have been doing for over 50 years. I am proud and feel very lucky to have posted these pictures. bobga | |||
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NC, Has Momma burped you and changed your diaper yet today, if not cry some more so maybe she will notice your on the computer again and sign you off. | |||
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NC, Because of the fact that your part time job at Burger King doesn't allow you to take guided hunts, is no reason to condemn those of us that do. Just save your money for some more purdy decorations for your single wide. BOWHUNR NEVER BOOK A HUNT WITH JEFF BLAIR AT BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING! | |||
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Ruffled a few feathers i see. You know I really did not realize what was involved in guided hunts. I guess I wrote before I learned. I actually had a conversation w/ a client that goes to africa every year he gets the chance, and he really changed my views and informed me on some things. Its just that TV doesn't do hunting justice sometimes and thats the only reference I had to Africa hunting, and yes the only hunting I have done is here in Easter, NC and only got a couple whitetails and small game mounted in my house, hell I have never even traveled farther North than VA and south to FL and east to TN. That was not the right way to approach learning about hunting exotics to insult someones trophy room, which is alot more impressive than mine. Anyway, If I get a second chance, I would like to be present with an open mind. Oh and I would like to share a picture of me and my 1 yr old boy with a deer I killed if I could email it to someone and put it up for me, I dont have a scanner. I would like to start over and I am genuine in this request, if no grudges are held. If not then I will calmly be on my way. ncbuckfever | |||
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ncbuckfever, I can assure you you have not ruffled anyone feathers here. The people here have far too much experience to let someone who is behaving like a classic troll upset them. They are just letting you know right from the beginning that they are not going to stand for your bullshit. I suggest you go find someone else to play with, as you have already started on the wrong foot, and I doubt that anyone will believe any execuse you might say for that silly first post. No genuine hunter would EVER start with such an obnoxious post! | |||
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Man, you started off on the wrong foot in a MONUMENTALfashion  . IFyou really want to learn anything about hunting outside your own area, you might start by not referring to animals that are not native to NC as "exotics". That implies that they were taken in another area that they are not normally found in, and in the vast majority of cases here on this forum that is untrue.As someone who still hunts deer in Georgia, I can truly say that some of my hunts in other countries have been much more challenging, both physically and mentally, and some of the animals have been just as (and more) difficult to hunt, even on a "guided hunt". This does not even take into account the risk factor involved. If you ever have the opportunity to crawl through thick cover, surrounded by a heard of cape buffalo that might stampede at any moment, or of inching your way through head high grass to check whether the lions have come back to the site of a kill and are laying in the shade of a tree or bush guarding their prey, or of standing there wondering if that elephant that is coming hard at you from 40 yards away is serious or just doing a fake charge to scare you away, then you will have "earned" the right to make comparisons. I know that these are extreme cases, but I think you will get the idea from them of how broad a brush you were using in painting the people here as less than real hunters in your original post. Welcome to the forum  .Jim  | |||
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Well Jim, you certainly were much nicer and civilized than I am about to be with this inbred. For starters, I am always wary of the quasi-tree hugger crowd that call themselves hunters whe they use the word "harvest" instead of the usual "kill" or "take." This bozo's gaze upon the rest of the hunting world though his narrow focus is I suspect rooted mainly in ignorance and envy, for obviously anybody that has access to a television set and can read at the third grade level would know that some of the hardest, most challenging hunts are those where a guide or PH is required AND mandated by law. I just returned from the Carolinas where I watched truckloads of "hunters" festooned in camo Nascar wadrobes hunt deer from the backs of pick up trucks with dogs and radio collars. I'd like to see these "harvesters" try that crap with a lion or leopard for starters, let alone walk upwards of 8-10 miles per day in warm temps or climb 15 thousand foot mountains after sheep. Finally, I don't buy the "I'm not trying to offend" bullshit either. You came here with an agenda to disparage those that can, and have done things you know you can't and never will do. So try it again with another name or better yet go over to the site run by the Joey Butafouco of the internet, Worldshooters.com. At least over there you'll fit right in with your 45/70 and the rest of the sociopaths.jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
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EAST to Tennessee? From North Carolina? Now what sense does that make? | |||
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I bet you are the life of a party with your attitude. Seems it took you 2 days to figure out you did not have a decent opinion let alone the ability to express it in English versus ebonics. Start over somewhere else... | |||
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Seems Mr. BuckNCfever is editing his posts rapidly... The first two posts were changed rather dramatically.... See the quoted replies. | |||
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Bye! | |||
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nc, I accept your apology. If you stay, obviously you are going to catch some grief, but if you stick it out and prove to be one of the good guys, you'll be accepted eventually. This is a good place to learn about a lot of things about hunting and firearms and being nice. Kudude | |||
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I guess nbuck got the pic what is like to go and walk in the mid of a lion herd to share his view without a PH  huh guys you ate him alive... | |||
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Several mistakes made by NCbuck - 1. Attack people with a poorly worded post on a topic you know little about. 2. Be a newcomer with nothing but criticism to offer. 3. Call people names for no reason. 4. Edit your posts to make the other posters look foolish. 5. Get a "strong talkin' to by Saeed". 6. Act contrite and offer "no offence intended" when what you said would start a fist fight if said in person. 7. Run away. Recipe for a bad start to a relationship. | |||
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NCbuckfever, I'm usually a very civil, fair guy, until that one or 2 times a year I sip on some drinks and play at the computer, then I can get mouthy, definitely guilty of it here in the past. I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt but you have to remember, first impressions usually last a LONG time. I'd really suggest you sign off, get another name if you want info or to learn about REAL hunting. Some of these guys here have been around for a long time and you'll see pissing matches and disagreements but that is the nature of the forum. I don't care for labeling or name calling and am 99% good at restraining from such but Honestly, you came across in your first post as a class A prick looking to stir the pot or to get a rise from some pretty damned experience hunters here, some of which could out hunt many guides, and MANY that could teach you a thing or two I'm sure. You seem genuine in your "regret" post as I'll call it, but I think you burned your bridge before it was built. Your idea of a hunt may differ from someone elses, but there is a common denominator, and that is we all enjoy it. Maybe you should do some soul searching to see what drives your passion to hunt, then come back and ask others what drives them, but your initial approach was, in my opinion, rather inappropriate. Hope you take criticism like a man. But the fact that you edited your thread starter to the degree you did really discredits you substantially. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I second that. Of all the hunting forums on the net this is where the nicest bunch of people hang out. Every topic i have ever started has been responded with positve comments and usefull information Be carefull when you mess with a persons passions. Anyway, Where the F?%CK are your hunting pictures  | |||
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woot fox  - what a mess on that elk`s trophy  - what is the age of that beauty | |||
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The oldtimers "experienced hunters i know" figure he was about 5 years old | |||
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