Just got to thinking that I can't recall reading any stories of hunters killing their deer, bear, etc, with this fine gas-checked boolit. They come out at 178 grains checked from my range scrap alloy. Have an old Marlin 36 in .30-WCF inbound, and hope the bore is good enough to shoot this boolit well.

Both my son and I have taken deer with this Lee mould. Got the load data upstairs in my load book. It seems to shoot better in his Win 94 than my Marlin 336.

Thanks Uncle Grinch. Always nice to see a deer harvested with cast.

Bill
I have some of those bullets but haven't gotten around to shooting them. If you do post your results please.

Will do, friend. Perhaps this week.
The circa 1947 Marlin Model 36 arrived and while it shows plenty of use, the bore is excellent. Love that old Marlin Ballard rifling!

you'll like the 36.
it doesn't have the sucky 336's barrel that needs 311-312 diameter bullets to do well.

pick bout any load you want, I've used everything from bulls-eye up through 4831 in the 30-30.
yeah 4831,, try 34-36grs of whatever flavor you got on hand for about 1850 fps.

Phooey. No 4831 either ... Twenty-one smokeless powders on hand, plus black, and why is it the ones I read about being best for this or that round are among the missing? I think it is a curse.

Hi Bill:

I traded for an old rusted out bore '17 Enfield for a rebuild.
Before getting started a friend running the CMP matches wanted to ty it out.

"06, 165gr hard cast, not the one you asked about.
He loaded it with 15gr Red Dot.

200 yard CMP.

He won every match with it.

So don't be concerned about bores.

glad that one came thru with a good one.

Miss our chats, still getting kickbacks every time.
Hell of it is, yours come thru fine.

George

2400 will get you there, unique, 4198, 4064,4895, and 3031 no problems.

they'll all match the original loading and stay within pressure.
you could even use H-110 if you are brave enough, 1680 works well and so does AA-2230.

I mostly use 2230 it's just too easy to take the powder dump off the 223 tool head and move it to the 30-30.

Didn't take my chronograph, but the Model 36 liked the Lee bullet reasonably well over 22 grains of AA 5744. I need to replace the front sight with a higher and finer bead as these loads were shooting six to eight inches high at 50 yards.

Very good grouping Bill.

Any chance you have some .58 cal slugs or balls?

A friend just got an old Springfield 1864 BP.

Tried to send you his pictures.

George

George, email sent.

Bill:

Got it,

sounds fine.
Thanks,
George

Althought not the same bullet or rifle I have taken a deer with the LEE 170 grain 8mm bullet, but I use it in my Winchester Model 94 32 Special. It's cast from 50/50 alloy and I size it to .321 or a tad larger and I'm using a duplex load of surplus powder and H4198 for a booster. My muzzle velocity is about 1750 fps. I shot a large doe with it facing me at an angle with her right shoulder facing me at 100 yards exactly. The bullet impact was exactly where I was aiming and it went all the way through here and exited her left ham. I was hoping to recover the bullet, but it was not the case. It had tranversed some 30 inches of deer. She went right down. When I was processing her the damage was tremendous inside her. To tell you the truth I don't think a jacketed 7mm Mag would have done more. Imagine now the muzzle velocity of 1750 fps would have been much less when it arrived at 100 yards. I've had good sucess with LEE bullets.

Shootermetal,

What surplus powder ?

867, the load was 7.0 grains of H4198 topped with 32 grains of 867.