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I'm ordering a selection of powder coated cast bullets for my Browning Mod. 1895 in 375 Whelen and a Browning Mod 1895 in 30 06. My plans are to achieve good accuracy at the upper end of velocity. Accuracy is the determining factor. The bullets will be heavy for caliber. My question is will powder coating with stand the same pressures / velocities as gas checked had cast? Once I get these rifles shooting up to snuff I want to try powder coated 300 grain plus in my 405 Winchester , mod 95. Any experience you my have sure would help and thanks. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | ||
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yes. but a gas check helps them too, it's that square base thing that plagues all bullets. and. as with regular cast bullets the diameter makes a difference. bigger isn't always better in this case. | |||
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I'm wanting to try this powder coating as well. About six weeks back I picked up a Winchester/ miruko 1895 in 405 Winchester in like new condition at a farm consignment auction. couldn't pass it up at $450. It's even a limited series takedown model 65/1000. I ordered some Jamison brass and 300 grain gas checked bullets from Buffalo arms, which it shoots great, but I also ordered a bullet mold from NOE in 412-360-fn-gc and was thinking on trying PC after they were checked. The bore slugs out at .412.5. I've got two deer and two elk tags to concentrate on right now but after that I'll start casting and give it a try. | |||
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YOu are one lucky fella with the 405 find. A few years back I designed and got Mountain Molds to make a 350 grain mould for my 405, very accurate. Good luck with those four tags that you are duty bound to fill. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I may try my 413 dia. for the 405, 350 grain cast gas checked with powder coating after the New Year. For now I'll order in some powdewr coated 375 cast powder coated of varying diamers for testing Thanks. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Over the past year and a half, I have been doing extensive testing various rifles with powder coat. It seems that a GC and PC'd bullet can be driven at velocities of between 2,500 (250/3000) and 3,120fps (243)with no leading and excellent accuracy.  The little 7.62x39 is pushing full power loads to 2,180fps with powder coating.  Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer! If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead! | |||
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Do you buy them PC or do them yourself? Roger | |||
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Been casting bullets the traditional way since the early 70’s. The more I read about powder coating, the more intriguing it becomes. I normally try to fit the nose of my cast bullets to the chamber mouth or leade. My question is does PC’ing bullets add to the diameter that may cause the bullet to be lodged in the leade? Shoot Safe, Mike NRA Endowment Member | |||
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Those are some handsome loads, Bad Ass. Thank you for not choosing pink!  There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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A few years ago I sold all of my lube and size equipment. I now powder coat 100%. It's cheap, quick, adn easy to do. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Gosh Bad Ass those cartidges look like Cape Buffalo dildos. Yes I know it's the perspective, those tings look huge. Question is there any difference in the color of the powder coating? Is one better for what ever reason then another? "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Nice double entendre, Bill, considering the caliber. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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I use blue, red or black. Black for night time shooting so the game can't see the bullet coming!   Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer! If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead! | |||
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Bad Ass.. I like the black bullet idea. Do you suppose that dirt colored shot would help my dove score? "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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While I like the natural look of lead, traditional too, I stopped coating with gray or clear as I could not tell if the coat was on the bullet 100%. So, I chose black as the color for my bullets. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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A good friend gave me a couple hundred p0wqer coated round to try. Who ever made the bullets used bright red. The range officer walked by and asked if I was shooting lip stick down range. I do like Missouri Bullets black powder coated and they are accurate. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Pete, There is no good or bad color, but there can be a big difference in how one particular color powder may work versus another. There is a huge powder coat thread over on "Cast Boolits" forum. As Cal said it is an easy process after you do it a few times. The powder does add to the diameter of the bullet but I do all my sizing after the powder coat is applied. I use a Lee push through sizer with no lube and apply the gas check as I'm doing the sizing. | |||
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Thanks for the info. Seems I'l be working up some cast bullets for powder coating. "Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson | |||
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I can't say about being stuck but when you pc you do ad to the diameter of the bullet I always size and check after powder coating | |||
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My 223 Rem loads out of a Browning "A-Bolt" II have been chronographed to 2,710fps before accuracy drops off, but 1 1/2 groups are still going to put meat on the table.  Very interesting to note that when you put powder coated bullets back in the melting pot, they are the last bits of lead to melt. I'm sure in a cartridge that's the reason you can drive them to 2,500 to 2,750 with no leading! Hold still varmint; while I plugs yer! If'n I miss, our band of 45/70 brothers, will fill yer full of lead! | |||
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