The 30-06 case is usable to sizing to the 6.5x55 Swede. First lets discuss the actual measurements of the two cases. Although the measurement of the 30-06 calls for .470 diameter at the solid portion of the web it is often found to be smaller then that on commercial made cases. Sometimes you can find some slightly fatter. The Swede, from an original drawing calls for a measurement of .480031. Most U.S. case dimensions say .479. I have found some foreign brass like Norma having a diameter of .477. So be aware of this that the 06 case isn't an exact cross over fit.

The 06 case should size easily in the 6.5x55 sizer die. Most the effort will be pushing the shoulder back. The best way to do it is with an actual forming die, but the sizer die can be utilized. I would remove the decapper assembly. Some mention has been made to just sizing the should back in a 308 die. There has been mention of using a 7x57 die also. What happen with the 308 is that often the case wall right below the should junction will bulge. Annealed cases even have more a chance doing this. I try to stay away from annealing cases for forming. This same problem arises if you size the case first in a 7x57 die because then the shoulder is much smaller in diameter then the 6.5 shoulder and the ugly bulge can rear it's head. Some say just use the 6.5 die but size down in steps. Others size in one stroke of the ram. I prefer the step method because I feel it traps less air at the shoulder/neck junction. It's not always oil that causes the wrinkles on failed forming. As mentioned the 06 isn't as fat as the Swede so much lube isn't needed. I would clean the die out after removing the decapping assembly to insure there is no lube present in the shoulder/neck area. I would try a dry 06 case first. If you find it need lube it's important to keep it off any area that will have shoulder pushed down beyond, which is a pretty good amount. What some don't realize lube the rear area of a case will cause lube ti migrate up in the die and eventually reach the shoulder/neck area causing wrinkles. Now if you have accomplished sizing the 06 cases into 6.5x55's you will of course have to trim them to length and more then likely have to neck turn the thicker necks. The necks won't only be thicker, but the will be tapered because you have turned some of the original 06 neck, shoulder, and wall into the 6.5 neck. I prefer neck turning as sometimes a reamer can go in crooked.

Next arises fire forming. Some claim to have such tight Swede chambers that the 06 case doesn't bulge ahead of the solid web portion at all. They are lucky to have such a chamber. The ones that I have encountered are not so tight and I resort to a few layers of Scotch Tape. I use 1/8 inch wide strips right in front of the extractor groove. I have never had tape stick in a chamber. Not even a hint of it. In fact I can unwrap the tape from a fired case and reuse it. I've had good accuracy with taped cases while fire forming. I have also found that centering the case to expand even all the way around and to turning the necks so as to achieve a minimum clearance upon firing to improve the accuracy over using commercial 6.5x55 Swede cases. This is the main reason for using the thickest military 06 cases I can find.

As for the annealing I said I don't do, I draw the shoulder/neck area of the cases and I've gotten a very long life out of them.

If just shooting jacketed bullets you may or may not have to turn your necks.

Joe; there's a good thread on this over at CB. Jim gives some very good advice on how he does it, been doing it for many years. Go read it, it will help you figure it out. I just buy new cases correctly head stamped, they are offered by several of the big names at very reasonable prices. Hope this helps!

No, the good thread is right here. That's why I wrote it. Really anyone that lubes 06 brass to run through a Swede die doesn't know what he is doing because the 06 is so much smaller in body diameter. You don't have to lube a case to size the neck down and push a shoulder back.

Reckon that alcohol has destroyed more brain cells then I first anticipated. You use use regular correct head stamped brass because you you can't get a Swede to shoot extreme accuracy with cast.

Just trying to help with your problem! Keep trying you might figure it out someday, maybe? I didn't even try to obtain one of the "secret Decoder Rings" you were selling! I ain't buying it

I don't have a problem, you do, with me . so why don't you go crawl back under your Castboolit rock? Especially if they are so much better and knowledgeable.

Joe; If you lived closer I could come over and show you how to do it correctly. If you have any questions feel free to PM me, I'll see if I can explain it to you! Maybe a few pictures would help?

Hey what's that a threat like you threatened what you were going to do to Waksupi over that remark about his girlfriend?????

More likely those that aren't getting "extreme accuracy with cast" are using rifles,instead of a keyboard... Onceabull

????????????????????? R U OK JOEY?

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More likely those that aren't getting "extreme accuracy with cast" are using rifles,instead of a keyboard... Onceabull

Idabull; I do believe that is the problem right there! I use a rifle or handgun, Joey uses the computer keyboard! They're all ONE HOLE GROUPS at velocity! What's that mean anyways, off course they are at velocity??? The bullet isn't moving if they aren't. I've got to get a new keyboard, a ONE HOLER like Joe uses.

Bill, No threats???? Hey know what I like about you Bill. That you're OLD and won't be with us much longer.

SmokinJ(aka StarMetal, MaxPayne,JOe, old joe, et al,ad naus.) You fool no one who's been on any cast bullet forum long enough to remember who is actually the death threat guy...we held Mom's 94th B'day party this fall, so maybeso you want to think about holding your breath waiting for me to croak..!! Idabull

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Originally posted by idabull:
SmokinJ(aka StarMetal, MaxPayne,JOe, old joe, et al,ad naus.) You fool no one who's been on any cast bullet forum long enough to remember who is actually the death threat guy...we held Mom's 94th B'day party this fall, so maybeso you want to think about holding your breath waiting for me to croak..!! Idabull

Idabull; Definately some good genes there, 94 WOW that's great. I'll bet you make it past a hundred, I know I will.

Room to talk Bill, you use two different names on two forums, who knows how many more on whatever other forums you belong too. BTW how about posting my death threats you claim I've made. 94 Wow! and you're senile too.

swheeler, you'll never make that age with all the booze you put away. Oh and you nose is really really brown.

Hey I was just trying to help, sounded like you were a little confused!

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Originally posted by swheeler:
Hey I was just trying to help, sounded like you were a little confused!

Oh, trying to help...okay.

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
No, the good thread is right here. That's why I wrote it.

I hate to get in the middle of a good pissing match, but...

Keep in mind that all the words of wisdom posted here on AR, like Las Vegas, stay right here. Do a google search using a sentence or two verbatim from your original post. It won't show up. It's got something to do with AR's server settings.

So if anyone wants his posts to be seen by the whole internet world, this isn't the place to put them for all eternity.

weren't you banned over there? Just asking...

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
No, the good thread is right here. That's why I wrote it.

I hate to get in the middle of a good pissing match, but...

Keep in mind that all the words of wisdom posted here on AR, like Las Vegas, stay right here. Do a google search using a sentence or two verbatim from your original post. It won't show up. It's got something to do with AR's server settings.

So if anyone wants his posts to be seen by the whole internet world, this isn't the place to put them for all eternity.

Well you did get in the middle of it and I will
on you. So why you even come here alone post here? Oh to stir trouble like old man idabull and boozer swheeler.

Joe are you six years old? grow the #$#@ up! Get a 22 and practice, A LOT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...cJWY&feature=related
Now I know you've got a good tan and a white circle around your left eye

Scott, get yourself out of that liquor bottle...spend that wasted time drinking taking care of your family and job. Please don't drive or do your job drunk!!!!!

SmokinJ(aka Starmetal,MaxPayne, Joe, OldJoe) go out and buy yourself some new commercial brass in 6.5x55! You are never going to figure out how to do it correctly on your own
If you'd read Jims article you may be able to figure it out, but I think your NPD gets in the way. You and your keyboard are a legend now(in your mind anyways), how about a new handle ONE RAGGED HOLE JOE There you go your famous, that should hold ya for awhile!

You might as well sell your rifles Scott, they are really shotguns the way you shoot them...terrible. I'm sorry that you are upset you can't do what others do with the Swede or other calibers with cast, but please, don't let me be the cause of your finding yourself in the bottom of the bottle this evening. Take your dog for a walk or something instead. Listen to what 45 2.1 is trying to show you and you may turn those shotguns back into rifles. It's amazing how little you have leaned.

I really enjoy these little threads so hope you don't think you bother me. You're a really funny guy.

All you need is a "ONE RAGGED HOLE" keyboard and no wittnesses! Your FAMOUS Joe, everybody "knows" you. Just one word for you to ponder RINOPLASTY

Jealousy will get you nowhere. All you need is a bottle and you don't care about the world anymore.

YOU ARE A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND!!!!!!!!!!

Oh come Scott, you can do better then an old old Clint Eastwood line.

Hey it's has been fun, but all this is just garbage and way off topic.

You and yours have a very Merry Xmax...bye now.

I gave you some good advice, go buy some commercial brass! Then maybe, just maybe you will be able to hit a target past 50 yds, that's a BIG maybe!

I've done this, cause I was in a pinch and had some 30/06 cases kicking around. Doesn't make sense otherwise. 6.5x 55 is easy enough to come by and 30/06 is becoming less common.
Grizz

Joe,
Are you doing any cast boolit HV work in a 7X57 or 708?

swheeler,
You tag a elk this year?

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Originally posted by Low Wall:
Joe,
Are you doing any cast boolit HV work in a 7X57 or 708?

swheeler,
You tag a elk this year?

I haven't in the 7x57 but have done so in the 7mm 08. My best results were with the Lee 135 grain bullet mainly because my SAKO has a very short free bore and that LEE bullet fit really well.

Thanks Joe,
I have a Marlin XS7 in 708 and the LEE 139gr along with the LEE Soupcan.. I haven't tried shooting cast out of either the 7X57 or 708 but have all winter to try to fit up a boolit to their throats and do a bit of range work on warm days..
The 7X57 might be a write off for cast as its throat is terrible long and I can only reach the lands with Hornadys 175grs bullets..
Are you using the same powders for the 7's that you use in your 6.5X55?...
We haven't had AA3100 here for a coons age but after ragging on the local dealer he said that they would carry AA/Western this coming summer..

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Originally posted by Low Wall:
Thanks Joe,
I have a Marlin XS7 in 708 and the LEE 139gr along with the LEE Soupcan.. I haven't tried shooting cast out of either the 7X57 or 708 but have all winter to try to fit up a boolit to their throats and do a bit of range work on warm days..
The 7X57 might be a write off for cast as its throat is terrible long and I can only reach the lands with Hornadys 175grs bullets..
Are you using the same powders for the 7's that you use in your 6.5X55?...
We haven't had AA3100 here for a coons age but after ragging on the local dealer he said that they would carry AA/Western this coming summer..

I've owned 7x57's and my favorite bullet in them was the Lyman 150 grain Loverin and they shot quite well from them. They fit that long throat good.

That Marlin is a nice rifle.

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Originally posted by Low Wall:
Joe,
Are you doing any cast boolit HV work in a 7X57 or 708?

swheeler,
You tag a elk this year?

Hi Low Wall, no elk this year, must have been drunk and missed season?

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Originally posted by swheeler:

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Originally posted by Low Wall:
Joe,
Are you doing any cast boolit HV work in a 7X57 or 708?

swheeler,
You tag a elk this year?

Hi Low Wall, no elk this year, must have been drunk and missed season?

Hey Scott,
Sounds like you had a good time anyway!.

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Originally posted by Low Wall:

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Originally posted by swheeler:

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Originally posted by Low Wall:
Joe,
Are you doing any cast boolit HV work in a 7X57 or 708?

swheeler,
You tag a elk this year?

Hi Low Wall, no elk this year, must have been drunk and missed season?

Hey Scott,
Sounds like you had a good time anyway!.

I sure did! I enjoy life, live every day like it is my last, and try not to worry about the trivial things.