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Originally posted by vzerone:
Clean your bore from the old fouling first.

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Well you're making progress, but you shouldn't mix lube by shooting some of one lube and some of another lube because you need to isolate what the problem is. You need to shoot a bunch of just lube at a time. Another thing you shouldn't have to clean your barrel at all if everything is right. I've gone hundreds of rounds in a 308 without cleaning and no loss of accuracy because the lube I'm using, my sizing, my bullet, and my loading are all doing their job.

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Still waiting for the results with just the RCBS lube shootaway.

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Originally posted by vzerone:
Thanks for the update and good luck shooting.

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Originally posted by Lamar:
you know you live in Canada ..LOL.
the winter will change your lube,, just as a FYI.

we already have snow up high and as soon as the clouds clear off from the storm rolling through now,I bet we have it down on the lower mtns too.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I am guessing that the quality of the cast bullet itself has an affect on accuracy.Many of the bullets I am now shooting were cast in the beginning of the session when the mold was not hot enough.

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Originally posted by vzerone:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I am guessing that the quality of the cast bullet itself has an affect on accuracy.Many of the bullets I am now shooting were cast in the beginning of the session when the mold was not hot enough.

Yes sir you had better believe that bullet quality has much to do with accuracy. Besides the normal looking the bullets over for full fill out, flat bases, and no wrinkles, the real test for quality is to weigh them. If they vary more the .1 to .3 grains between bullets they aren't cast well.

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Originally posted by 45 2.1:
How much can it affect accuracy?

A lot............ Until you can cast uniform same weight bullets, your accuracy level will be at 1.5 MOA at the best and well above at the worst. Test yourself and your ammo off a solid bench rest. Offhand doesn't tell you much of anything.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I shot my Krieger barrelled 308 today.It is the less accurate of my two 308's.Before shooting it, I gave the throat a scrubbing and removed some of the carbon ring(a ring I didn't know existed until I purchased a great borescope).All I can say is WOW.My first five shots offhand at 50yds went into an inch.I shot the 308 cast using the RCBS rifle lube.They shoot great!!!

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Originally posted by vzerone:

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I shot my Krieger barrelled 308 today.It is the less accurate of my two 308's.Before shooting it, I gave the throat a scrubbing and removed some of the carbon ring(a ring I didn't know existed until I purchased a great borescope).All I can say is WOW.My first five shots offhand at 50yds went into an inch.I shot the 308 cast using the RCBS rifle lube.They shoot great!!!

So then that RCBS lube seems better huh? I thought it would. That other lube you were shooting wasn't up to snuff for the loads you were shooting. There are other even better lubes out there. To name a few one is LBT Blue. If you order that get the soft version as that's all you'll ever need. The is look up LARS lube.

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Originally posted by TCLouis:
I would go back a step and evaluate the powders available and used then try varying the type of powder(s) and the amount to find an accurate load. I only saw one powder and load listed. Except for one case of pure luck, I have found that one has to search for that magic combo that gives the most precise group. Many other combos may provide perfectly adequate groups also.
Might as well try 5744 in the gun.

Do you have any of the pistol powders on hand.
Do you have access to the Lyman number two cast bullet loading manual?

As others have mentioned, there are a lot of good lubes out there that may well assist in providing better groups also.

Attached is (maybe it will work) Ranch Dog's 165 out of a full on military Type 99 with 4 different loads same powder 50 yards and on sand bags. Note what just a change in hold did for the one group.
https://ibb.co/NstS8pD

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Originally posted by vzerone:
You're improving shootaway, keep up the good work. Record everything you do and experiment changing things to further improve.

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Originally posted by carpetman1:
dpcd I call them bullets too. Another forum does have bumper stickers with "boolits" on it. Possibly a couple of people in the town would know what it means and the rest would think what an idiot. I have seen signs of people that do backhoe work that say "backhole" work. I also saw a sign, someone selling boiled peanuts that read "bolied" peanuts. I put using "boolits" in the same category.