bartsche, how about the Lyman 358009? It's 280 grains and shoots very well in a 14 twist bbl. Mine is a 35 Whelen and I shoot it with 40 gr IMR4895 for 1900 fps. sundog

Sundog : is it still available ? Or is it one of the many obsolete moulds ?

Unfortunately obsolete, but I finally got one after a many year search.

That said, there are some mold makers out there that could fashion one, or something similar. I'll have to look at my mountain mold blocks to see how deep they are, and if they could handle the length of the bullet.

Hey Paul, please do.
I'm semi-serious about finding a heavy cast load for my 358-404, hopefully 300-310g, but 280 is in the right direction.

A 300 gr (wheelweight) 35 would be about 1.15" long, depending on this, that, and the other. Too long for the standard blocks but fine for the XL blocks.

Some of us from the old Shooters Talk got together and had david mos in Arkansas make us up amold very similar to Lyman's #3589/358009. We called it the #3589I for improved. The bullet was the same with a slight flat spot on the nose to improve smacking power when shooting game.
I'd post his address and E-mail addy, but I lost them when my computer crashed a while back.
In fact, if anyone still has the URL for his web site, I'd be mighty obliged if someone would post it.
Paul B.

Paul, that is THE bullet I'd like to get my hands on to try.
How many molds were made? Are there any "on the market"?

Hey Paul B

don't forget about the 280 gr .35 cal NEI boolit I sent ya from Akron Ohio......WW cast right at 300 grains, and fills up the case on my Whelen #1

George

I have a 3589 (358009) also a six cavity Lee bator 260 gr which drops a 281 gr bullet. Both are for sale. ben.

The word I have is that David Mos sold his mould making to someone. Don't know the details. A couple years ago he made us 6 moulds, 3 singles and 3 doubles. No more available unless David has one stashed. I think he has a link on castpics. There's also a pic on castpics,
http://www.castpics.net/RandD/3589I/3589I.htm sundog

BEN How do I contact you for details? Pack

My e-mail is <ben1025atmsn.com> for information on the moulds. ben.

Ben, E-mail at ya.

Tom

Bawana-be I also have a self designed and built .358X.404IMP. that I want the 300 grainer for.
1. Is anyone out there interested in making the mold et all complete ready to use?
2. Do any of you guys want to split the expense to make a mold?
3. Once obtained will any of you cast and supply as cast or finished bullets at a fair price.
4. Is there another "absolute known" way to get the 300 grainers? Please reply I have to send some to Jurgen.

Bartsche: If Sundog don't. I have quite a few bullets from both moulds I have no use for. I
might do it. ben.

Bartsche: One thing that comes to mind is a 280 gr bullet won't stabalize in a 16 twist. It will handle a 250 gr. A 14 twist will stabalize a 280
gr bullet. The question is will a 14 twist stabalize a 300 gr bullet. This reads like a tongue twister. B4 you have a mould cut for you you might think what twist to stabalize a 300 gr bullet. ben.

Ben I'd like to take you up on those bullets.They may not stabaize but if I get a couple hundred I can try them out. Thanks Ben. You show no E-mail address. mine is bartsche@sbcglobal.net please reply Roger

Ben, I'd be interested in whatever is left.
My barrel has a 12" twist by the way.

Barche, Bwana-be: My e-mail address is a half dozen posts back. ben.

Bartsche, you want to share any load data on that round of yours? Mine's still being assembled, so I'm starting from scratch....
2.4" body, 35 deg shoulder, 2.86" max case.
Should hold around 117-119g water.
I think it's called the 9x72mm Bwana-be.

This sounds like a mould that I am looking for to try in my .358 Norma Magnum!!!
Further information on leadbullet in .358NM is wanted!
Anybody tried lead in .358NM???

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bwana-be:
[QB]"Bartsche, you want to share any load data on that round of yours?" This dates back to 1998. .358 X .404 Whitworth Named after Jack Whitworth** an old buddy of Fred Barnes The Grand juction bullet man. Case length= 2.860" Bolt face to shoulder=2.275" Shoulder angle = 30 degrees neck length=.465" and tapers .390"to .392" These are reamer dimesions.It also has a 1/2" throat. It is built on a 98 Mauser with a single shot follower. I have measured the velosity of a 250gr. bullet at over 3150 ft./sec. ** will detail by e-mail bartsche@sbcglobal.net Roger

Information:
got bullets from ben. selected 5 that weighed 297gr. Used 66 gr. of WCC846 in my 358x404 IMP.Far from max. I'm not normally a lead bullet shooter so if any of you have some good load info or senceable approach to loading my wildcat let's hear from you. Only got 1 shot on paper and 2 in the frame while dialing in my scope. The holes were nice and round and exactly where they should have been during scope adjustment. If they weren't stable they sure were close. More to come in two weeks roger