Okay, guys. Now that I have a lifetime(?) supply of FWFL , I'm ready to step up my cast bullet shooting.
Would you please share recipes with me for the .308 Win? I have the RCBS .30-150 FN, a Lyman 311-291, and the Lee 115gr gas-check. Bullets will probably be straight WW alloy, water-quenched. the 150FN (preferred bullet) comes out right at 162gr lubed & checked. The Lyman is 181gr, the same way. I think they should hold up to 2000-2100fps, or so, without problems.
I already did the plinking loads with Red Dot, Unique, 2400, etc. Now I want to go a little faster.
If it matters, the rifle is a Rem Model 7, with 18" barrel. I have Hodgon, IMR, and AA powders. No surplus items yet, but that may change, as my stores dwindle. I appreciate your help & knowledge, and Thanks in advance.......Bug.

[ 11-19-2003, 01:02: Message edited by: Bug ]

My guess is that BW-36 is a surplus lot of H-322. The mould is a Lyman 31141 sized .309. Alloy is 6 parts WW to 1 part lino.

That's a best group, not an average group, btw. Ain't shot that load enough to know what the average is.

Thanks,DJ,
That's certainly the kind of accuracy I would like to get! Any idea of the velocity?

It's the kinda accuracy I would like to get on a regular basis, too, but mostly don't.

My best guess is 2000 fps, give or take a hundred. If the weather ever clears up here, I'll chronograph it and shoot more groups to see just how much of a fluke that one was.

Bug,

My hunting load in the .308 is with a 31141,(170gr) that's somewhere in between your two heavier .30 cal bullets. 45gr. of H4831SC will gets me 2337fps with very respectable 2" to 3" groups depending on rifle used. I use WW with just enough lino or tin to make class A projectiles.This load has accounted for 12 deer in the last 3 years here in South Dakota. ...Geo

Bug,
Give georgewxxx's load consideration. I use 44 grains of H-4831 in my .300 Savage with 31141 boolit and it is very impressive on deer!-JDL

Georgewxxx,
Are you heat treating these bullets? That's something I'd rather not get into. I'm guessing these water-quenched WW bullets are about inline with untreated lino. Or, at least thats what my rather crude comparisons are telling me. What is the twist in your rifle? I'm certainly impressed with the velocity you give. Didn't think I would be able to run 'em that fast. Does it leave much powder fouling? What about unburned powder left in the bbl? I know these are niggling Q's, but I just want to know what to look for, as I'm wringing out a load. Thanks, it's appreciated!>>>>>>Bug.

Bug,

No heat treating needed. The 'Ol thumbnail scratch shows soft WW marks. and "NO LEADING". I couldn't believe either when I heard about this load. In fact I used it two years before I had a chance to conferm the velocity with a crono. No BS here ..try it you'll be amazed. Probably not the most accurate pill you can put through your gun, but I hunt with it I don't use for target practice. Just make sure your boolit is fat enough so as not to have any blow-by on it's way down the tube. ...Geo

Bug,

I'm using a pre 64 Winchester model 70 and a Kimber sporter made out of a Swede Mauser 1896 action. I haven't a clue as to twist on either. As for cleanliness who give a darn as long as the boolit does what it's supposed to do. Some of my dirtiest loads are my favorites. Unburned powder in the bore is one of the most over-rated nonsence thats printed in gun rags. Jacket fouling is a different mater, but powder, unless it's so much you can't function the gun after a few rounds, I wouldn't give it a second thought. I believe that load was printed in the Handloader several years ago.I've tried it with both 31141 and 311041. They're supposed to be the same, but they're not. The ogive's are a bit different. I've got a 311091 hollow point mould I'm going to try next summer and see if work also I would susspect any of the RCBS...Lee...Lyman...SAECO moulds in the .30 cal 150gr to 180gr range should work too, with a little load twinking...Geo

I like the AA 5744 for cast bullets---200gr with gas check followed by 22 grs. AA-5744 -- If u try this load start with 18 gs. and go from there --- bullet is 15 % babitt--5 % bar solder--10% lino--70% WW--droped in water from mould--for what its worth my 2 cents---Enjoy---Mag801

Bullet: RCBS 165 SIL (unscaled)
Alloy: WW + 2.5% tin (air cooled)
Powder: WC872
Charge: 49 grains ( dumped through a 18" tube)
Primer: Remington 9.5
Range: 100 yards
Accuracy:.65 MOA (five shot groups)
Rifle: Remington 700 VS

This load and bullet can be tweaked to deliver true .5 MOA, but I have been sidetracked with a new dose of 30-40 (Krag and Win. 95)fever. This sickness comes and goes.

Chargar,
Thanks, but could you recommend a substitute powder? As I said, I have Hodgdon, AA, and IMR.

Tom Burns,
Do you mean start at 18gr 5744, for my 162gr bullet? Or, even the 180gr? It would seem that if you are using 22gr, I could start there.

And can either of you two tell me what the velocity (even if only estimated) on these loads?
Much obliged>>>>>>>>>>>Bug.