There's a big difference between folks who know what they're doing and what their guns are capable of, and the city boys who dress up like Rambo with the most expensive stuff Cabella's sells and go into the woods for a week.

Some of you guys, like Jump and Waksupi, could probably use a slingshot for elk and do just fine. The city boys that come out here once a year are a different breed, and mostly measure their skill by the cost of their equipment. Used by someone who knows what he's doing, roundballs are ok; used by the typical hunter, they are so substandard to ANY conical bullet, that we don't allow them to be used.

Jumptrap;

That sounds like a shot I made many years ago at a running deer at 20 yards. I hit it right in the brain pan and took the top of it's head off. I was trying to lead it for a shoulder shot, but I never admitted it to the guys I was hunting with. <G>

Grumble,

no doubt a conical will out penetrate a ball. I don't like using them because they are slow to load...especially in a fouled bore and the tracjectory is enormous compared to a ball. No, I ain't much with a slingshot. But, I don't take stupid shots and always try to get as close as I can, regardless of what I am carrying. That's not to say that if I have a clear 100 yard shot and have my 308 that I try to get to 50 yards. But if it was 200 yards, I'd try to get closer before letting a bullet go.

BTW, the first BP deer I ever whacked was with a .45 RB at 110 paces. Went in the right ear and out the left eyeball. It died so quick, it still had grass in it's mouth. Now, for the rest of the story.......I was aiming behind the right shoulder. HAR!

I don't allow muzzle hunters to use round balls for elk on my place. After talking to my neighbors, all but one rancher has taken up the same requirement -- no round balls, and no saboted pistol bullets, either.

We've all seen too many wounded elk laying dead a week after the season ends.