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| Yose guys and the soup cans... I wonder how fast one of those would go otta an 06? Maybe a try for >3500 fps for a cast bullet shooten?
Might be a stunt to occupy a winter's day at the range...
Would 3500 be a new record for our group?? How poor can the accuracy be and still qualify?
Your O-pinions are requested.
Maybe a swap-- soups cans for some 329's with the recut forward driver? I'd need'm HARD and LARGE. |
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| Aladin, I can supply some soup cans if you want to run the tests. I think it would be fair that you have to keep them ALL on, oh, let's say 8.5x11 paper, at 50 yards. Why 50? That seems to be where they work purdy well. I've not shoot them at a hunert yet, but we have had some reports of lost accuracy at that range. What say ye? Mine are air cooled range scrap. Someone else may have some water quench or heat treat that might work 'mo betta'. Or I could make another run sometime soon. Now that I think about it, the stuff I have on hand may not be the best. 3500, huh? Just MIGHT be a record. sundog |
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Aladin, I can supply some soup cans if you want to run the tests. I think it would be fair that you have to keep them ALL on, oh, let's say 8.5x11 paper, at 50 yards. Why 50? That seems to be where they work purdy well. I've not shoot them at a hunert yet, but we have had some reports of lost accuracy at that range. What say ye? Mine are air cooled range scrap. Someone else may have some water quench or heat treat that might work 'mo betta'. Or I could make another run sometime soon. Now that I think about it, the stuff I have on hand may not be the best. 3500, huh? Just MIGHT be a record. sundog
Sundog I can wait till you get some ww alloy cast whenever. I'd do the treatment. Glad to send some '329 can killers' over too.
That 50 yd requirement sounds reasonable. Anyone else per the standard?? |
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Aladin, I can supply some soup cans if you want to run the tests. I think it would be fair that you have to keep them ALL on, oh, let's say 8.5x11 paper, at 50 yards. Why 50? That seems to be where they work purdy well. I've not shoot them at a hunert yet, but we have had some reports of lost accuracy at that range. What say ye? Mine are air cooled range scrap. Someone else may have some water quench or heat treat that might work 'mo betta'. Or I could make another run sometime soon. Now that I think about it, the stuff I have on hand may not be the best. 3500, huh? Just MIGHT be a record. sundog
Sundog I can wait for some ww alloy bullets and I'll do the treatment. Can I send over some '329 can killers'?
Your requirement for 50 yds sounds fair. Anyone else on the standard for speed vs accuracy?? |
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Yeah, they will shoot at a hunnert plenty good enough for tin cans. At 2000-2200 anyway. 3500, you bet! Let's do it. I'd be very, very happy with a smashed up post card, which is about a beer can's worth anyway. Can you do it with 20 shots? Take a break and do 20 more without cleaning. If that is done, then we have a bonifide load worth talking about. ... felix
Felix I clearly labeled such 3500 stuff as a 'winter day's stunt'. Might be interesting to see if they hit anything, or if the bore is watched-- might even learn something. |
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| Then go for it Felix!
Winter came here yesterday for an extended stay. 6" of backache.. |
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| Yea, here, too. Firday night and Saturday going to crap in a hand basket. Started the bedding job on the 03 Sporter last night. Tomorrow night, touch up work. Should be ready sometime next week. This thing shoots variety cast boolits VERY well indeed. Any idears for sarting loads for 'hotrodding' it? Also should be in next week is Rem 700 VS LH in .308, but gotta go visit Felix first to put a scope on it. Base and rings will be ready ahead of time. Some one say 'winter project'? btw, if this bedding job goes really well, I'll be ordering another Carbolite stock for the RI 03 I use for High Power w/cast boolits, and do another one before season starts up again. Hmmm, southpaw, RH bolt gun, and cast boolits. BUT, I sure have fun! sundog
We need a starting load to soup up the soup cans!! |
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| I'm shooting 33 grains of WC-844 and the soup can from a Model '94. I'm getting right at 2150 (average chronographed), but accuracy AIN'T brew can at 100 yards. Can't seem to get it to that 1.5" or less at that distance with the '94 or the Super 14" Contender. Maybe more work is required???BCB |
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| felix,
1:12 for the 94's and I believe 1:14 for the Contender. That number I will have to check. The 94's have always shot cast bullets better than the Contender...BCB |
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| Hey Sundog,
Those soupcans shoot within 2" of each other at 100 yds. with BlueDot 10.5 gr. sized .310" Liquid Alox, out of Black Shadow '94 w/4X scope. Got some Herco myself to get shot up. Will try that. Also, 4759 shoots well at 100 yds w/15-17 gr. Don't have a chrono. Still have that box of .32 Spec for you down in the garage. Forgot about sending but lost your Slow-mail address to send along with old computer. Send it to me & I'll get them off. Sorry.
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| Newtire, let's correspond thru castpics if you can send me an email at -- webmaster at castpics dot net -- I'll sned my snail mail addy. Would really like to have that 32 Spl, and thanks!
Now, about the soup cans. 18.5 gr 4759 made a neat little hole that my pinky could just fit into at 50 yards. Impressive. 10.0 7625 did almost the same with a flyer, and about 3-4 inches lower POI than the 4759. Sooo, we have 9.0 PB, 10.0 7625 (both very mild - good for the kids!), and 18.5 4759 with a little punch. btw, I hand weighed the 4759 charges as that stuff doesn't meter worth a durn! I'm gonna load some more of the 4759 and try it again. Also got Herco and H116 loads that work okay. Nuthin' but fun. Gonna take 4ever to use up that coffee can full of boolits! Well, maybe not, when the grandkids get to shootin'.... sundog |
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| I've got the little soup can (90 gr) Lee mould. Throws 'em out at .315 to .316 in diameter.
That leaves two choices - tried to size to .309 - could not get good results, tried to load w/out sizing - left the OD of the loaded round big enough to be at or larger than the chamber.
Hmmmmm. Maybe in the .303 British. |
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| Don't know. I'd like one of the 113gr. ones too.
But for .32-20 I would think the 90gr would be better than the 113gr. (and the little one is available for cheap from the surplus section of Lee Precision) |
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| I haven't tried any of the under-100 gr boolits in my 32-20s, pissola or riffle. The only loads I've used were the 113 grainers with AA#5, and they shoot like a house afire. In fact, it was their performance in the 32-20 that prompted me to make the group buy of the six-holer molds.
Sky, you have a PM. |
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